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The Counselor - What went wrong?

Posted on 10/28/13 at 9:20 am
Posted by Augustus
North Carolina
Member since Sep 2006
8290 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 9:20 am
The new Ridley Scott movie opened to just $9M this weekend, one of the worst showings of his career.

It also managed a dismal "D" CinemaScore (which are usually saved for turds such as Movie 43). With an all-star cast, a known director, and Cormac McCarthy writing...seemed like this would be a slam dunk. But it was a complete bomb.

So what went wrong? Some theories...

- Too many adult-themed films at the box office right now (Gravity, Captain Phillips to be more specific).
- Unclear advertising. People didn't know WTF it was about.
- Poor reviews. Currently 35% on Rotten Tomatoes.

Combination of all 3? Other theories?
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36506 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 9:21 am to
Who says it's gonna be a great movie just because it has an all-star cast?

Sounds like Scott got lazy on this one.


ETA: I haven't seen the movie, so I know nothing about it. Just speculating on the reason for the failure here.
This post was edited on 10/28/13 at 9:22 am
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38259 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 9:22 am to
It looked cool but I had no idea WTF it was about
Posted by Flair Chops
to the west, my soul is bound
Member since Nov 2010
35570 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 9:56 am to
parents saw and hated it
Posted by Dr. Shultz
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Jun 2013
6391 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 10:09 am to
quote:

- Unclear advertising. People didn't know WTF it was about.



Probably this.

The trailer isn't very helpful in knowing what the movie is about.

I've noticed this a lot lately for movies. It seems they don't market as much with movie trailers on national TV. I feel like people used to put out trailers almost half a year in a advance and had them constantly playing.

Now I see a trailer like 3 weeks before it comes out and it just has a few action scenes and doesn't explain the movie at all.
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15761 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 10:10 am to
quote:

Unclear advertising. People didn't know WTF it was about.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
150565 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 10:14 am to
quote:

Who says it's gonna be a great movie just because it has an all-star cast?

This.

I saw the trailers and nothing appealed to me, and it didn't look interesting at all. So either it was bad marketing, or simply not a good movie. Without watching it, I'd guess that it's a bit of both.
Posted by Augustus
North Carolina
Member since Sep 2006
8290 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 10:19 am to
quote:

Who says it's gonna be a great movie just because it has an all-star cast?

Not me. I was just stating that the cast, plus a "name" director, plus Cormac McCarthy penning an original script seemed like a recipe for success. Of course, maybe I'm overestimating McCarthy's popularity in the general public.
Posted by SidewalkDawg
Chair
Member since Nov 2012
9820 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 10:31 am to
One acronym - DVR

At least in my household, almost all commercials get the axe and we hardly ever see the advertisements for movies. If we do see an advertisement, it better blow my socks off.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36506 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 10:38 am to
I know, it was a rhetorical question.

It's frustrating, because I like Scott and McCarthy, but it just seems like a whole lotta lazy going on.
Posted by The_Joker
Winter Park, Fl
Member since Jan 2013
16316 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 10:44 am to
quote:

- Unclear advertising. People didn't know WTF it was about.


According to Carson, this is a good thing
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
73142 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 10:47 am to
I saw multiple trailers for it and I was REALLY wanting to see it

Then I read reviews and got turned off

I'm not going to see it strictly because it got bad reviews
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94876 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 10:48 am to
Ridley Scott has a severe case of "hit or miss" with his films.


When he hits, like with Alien, Blade Runner, Black Hawk Down, etc., he tends to destroy it.

When he misses, it ends up being a WTF like Black Rain where all the parts are there but you can't help but feel massively disappointed by the end.
Posted by fouldeliverer
Lannisport
Member since Nov 2008
13538 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 10:53 am to
Personally, I had no desire to see it because I had no idea wtf it was about.
Posted by The_Joker
Winter Park, Fl
Member since Jan 2013
16316 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 10:53 am to
After Robin Hood, Prometheus and now this, it seems like he's on a "miss" streak
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101915 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 10:54 am to
quote:

- Unclear advertising. People didn't know WTF it was about.


Probably the biggest... I'm a huge McCarthy fan but I have no idea what this movie is about.
Posted by The Sad Banana
The gate is narrow.
Member since Jul 2008
89498 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 11:25 am to
quote:

Probably the biggest... I'm a huge McCarthy fan but I have no idea what this movie is about.
From the commercials I get the feeling Cruz and Diaz get it on, Brad Pitt looks unkempt, and Javier Bardem plays a weirdo (imagine that!).
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
39728 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 11:38 am to
I thought the TV spots looker horrible.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22396 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 12:41 pm to
quote:

I'm not going to see it strictly because it got bad reviews



Thats about as mindless as it gets. Wow.
Posted by Cockopotamus
Member since Jan 2013
15737 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 1:43 pm to
quote:

I saw multiple trailers for it and I was REALLY wanting to see it

Then I read reviews and got turned off

I'm not going to see it strictly because it got bad reviews
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