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Georgia - LSU comparisons by unit

Posted on 9/24/13 at 6:53 pm
Posted by countryboy2
Zimbabwe
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 9/24/13 at 6:53 pm
How do we stack up against the Dawgs by unit? What positions are they playing new starters? I know their defense was full of NFL guys last year who left but the defense was not great.
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 9/24/13 at 7:06 pm to
Clemson scored 38 against UGA, and only 26 against NC State. USCe scored 30 against UGA, and only 27 against UNC. The Gamecocks only scored 35 against Vandy at home, just five more than at UGA. North Texas scored as many points against UGA as they did against Ohio U.

None of the teams UGA has played has a defense or a special teams the caliber of ours. And only Clemson's offense is anywhere near LSU's.

You might be surprised to learn that LSU is scoring more PPG than Clemson, 40.3 to 38.6.

And yes, Clemson has played more name opponents, but not necessarily better defenses. UGA's defense is 85th in points given up, NC State's is 42nd.

TCU is 62nd in points given up, Auburn is 51st.

Didn't bother with the cupcakes for either.
Posted by WITNESS23
Member since Feb 2010
13722 posts
Posted on 9/24/13 at 7:10 pm to
We win the long snapper battle
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49303 posts
Posted on 9/24/13 at 7:25 pm to
Transitive property works so well
Posted by Big Lake
Member since Jul 2011
3844 posts
Posted on 9/24/13 at 7:26 pm to
I don't think I have watched UGA more than the first half of the NT game. I might watch their USC game to get a better feel for it because I am a little worried about this one
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
25057 posts
Posted on 9/24/13 at 7:28 pm to
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Transitive property works so wel


It's actually a consistent trend...
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49303 posts
Posted on 9/24/13 at 7:29 pm to
It's obvious that we got caught looking ahead to this game. And our special teams really screwed us over both resulting in instant TDs
Posted by Lifetigerfan
South East Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
305 posts
Posted on 9/24/13 at 7:42 pm to
Transitive does work ! I used it to tell everyone Notre Dame was grossly over ranked and Bama would crush them. It worked I mean the theory
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
76679 posts
Posted on 9/24/13 at 7:45 pm to
UGA posters are defending in Rant threads this week better than their defense has.
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
25057 posts
Posted on 9/24/13 at 8:06 pm to
I have no problem with UGA fans taking up for their team. Good on 'em!

Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 9/24/13 at 8:08 pm to
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I might watch their USC game to get a better feel for it
UGA looked very good in that game.
Posted by Big Lake
Member since Jul 2011
3844 posts
Posted on 9/24/13 at 8:12 pm to
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Transitive does work ! I used it to tell everyone Notre Dame was grossly over ranked and Bama would crush them. It worked I mean the theory


That wasn't the transitive theory. YOu only needed functioning vision to predict the outcome of that game.
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26175 posts
Posted on 9/24/13 at 8:41 pm to
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Clemson scored 38 against UGA, and only 26 against NC State. USCe scored 30 against UGA, and only 27 against UNC. The Gamecocks only scored 35 against Vandy at home, just five more than at UGA. North Texas scored as many points against UGA as they did against Ohio U.


Yikes. Can't believe you spent time to type that out.
Posted by Football_Freak
Member since May 2012
2410 posts
Posted on 9/24/13 at 8:45 pm to
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It's obvious that we got caught looking ahead to this game


Yes, no LSU coach or savvy fan think otherwise.

Is UGA a powerhouse on D - Probably not.

Will UGA play stronger on D this Saturday, Probably so.

Will it be enough to hold LSU to less that 35 points - Not likely.

As such, I predict

LSU 42
UGA 34
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
25057 posts
Posted on 9/24/13 at 8:49 pm to
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Yikes. Can't believe you spent time to type that out.



Curious as to which part you object to. And why.
Posted by dgoren
Marietta, GA
Member since Nov 2011
17 posts
Posted on 9/24/13 at 9:01 pm to
Not a bad analysis, but I still think you can throw it out the window for a game like this. UGA was going through the motions vs. North TX. We just don't know what UGA team will show up. The defense will give up points to the Tigers, but the offense is very hard to stop for very long. I can see a back and forth game.
Posted by SuperGameCock
Member since Sep 2013
4 posts
Posted on 9/24/13 at 9:10 pm to
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Clemson scored 38 against UGA, and only 26 against NC State. USCe scored 30 against UGA, and only 27 against UNC. The Gamecocks only scored 35 against Vandy at home, just five more than at UGA. North Texas scored as many points against UGA as they did against Ohio U.

None of the teams UGA has played has a defense or a special teams the caliber of ours. And only Clemson's offense is anywhere near LSU's.

You might be surprised to learn that LSU is scoring more PPG than Clemson, 40.3 to 38.6.

And yes, Clemson has played more name opponents, but not necessarily better defenses. UGA's defense is 85th in points given up, NC State's is 42nd.

TCU is 62nd in points given up, Auburn is 51st.

Didn't bother with the cupcakes for either.


You're just stating things in a way attempting to make UGA worse than they really are, and LSU better than they are. Let me try the same thing

UGA has a top 6 SOS of schedule while LSU is in the mid 60s and they average over 90 more yards per game than LSU.

UGA has gained at least 536 yards in each game, while LSU has only gained more than 460 once in 4 games.

TCU scored 17 more points on LSU than they did against Texas Tech

UAB had over 50 more rush yards and a higher YPC against LSU than they did against Troy. UAB outrushed LSU that game as well.

Mett only has 2 TDs and 1 int combined against the two best defenses LSU has faced. He also has a 55% completion percentage in those games. Murray had 4 TDs and was 17-23 against USC, a better defense than either TCU or AU.

Mett has a 28% completion percentage in the Redzone. Murray has a 69% completion percentage in the Redzone.

Kent State scored 13 on LSU, 17 on Liberty, and were shut out by Penn State. Based on this logic LSU's defense is comparable to Liberty and worse than Penn State's D.

LSU hasn't played a true road game yet.

I could of made this list a lot longer, but point is it's easy to pull out random stats from random games and make them look worse or better than they are.
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
25057 posts
Posted on 9/24/13 at 9:42 pm to
Mine weren't "random stats" though. The unit rankings I posted are from the SEC and ESPN.

LSU ranks higher on offense, defense, and special teams than anyone UGA has played to date. One of only eight teams in the country who has never trailed in a game...unlike any team UGA has yet to face.

I'd didn't add, but I could have, that LSU also wins the battle in turnover margin. I didn't think it was necessary.
Posted by SuperGameCock
Member since Sep 2013
4 posts
Posted on 9/24/13 at 10:02 pm to
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Mine weren't "random stats" though. The unit rankings I posted are from the SEC and ESPN.

LSU ranks higher on offense, defense, and special teams than anyone UGA has played to date. One of only eight teams in the country who has never trailed in a game...unlike any team UGA has yet to face.

I'd didn't add, but I could have, that LSU also wins the battle in turnover margin. I didn't think it was necessary.


Your first line was just giving how many points UGA's opponents scored against UGA, compared to how much they scored in other games, not taking into account the situation of each of those games (USC didn't need to keep scoring against Vandy or NC to win, but we did against UGA).

And by "random" I just meant only posting the stats that favor LSU over UGA, I wasn't saying they weren't true.

There's a very high chance that the overall stats of UGA and LSU would look completely different if the they traded schedules for the first 4 weeks of the season. It's tough to compare the stats of a team that has played 2 top ten teams vs. a team that hasn't hasn't played a team that is currently ranked.
Posted by BIG Texan
Texas
Member since Jun 2012
1597 posts
Posted on 9/24/13 at 10:26 pm to
So we prolly win by 17 right? Ok, that is what I thought.
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