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re: The Great American Rock Band
Posted on 3/7/13 at 1:38 am to Rebel
Posted on 3/7/13 at 1:38 am to Rebel
He didnt specify modern era..... He specifically said that we should choose from any era.
When I thought he was talking modern era I said black keys or maybe WSP or Phish.... That maybe was depending on how far you would extend the extremely malleable term "modern era"
Govt mule isn't known enough to be the greatest. The greatest should be a household name. Everyone in America should've heard at least one song by the "Greatest American Rockband" or at the very least heard their name.
Black keys is really the only option IMO.
Now if we're talking all time it has to be The ABB, The Grateful Dead or CCR.
They're the only ones that combine legacy, musicianship and popularity at a high enough degree IMO. No one HATES those three bands and everyone can sing along to one of their songs.
When I thought he was talking modern era I said black keys or maybe WSP or Phish.... That maybe was depending on how far you would extend the extremely malleable term "modern era"
Govt mule isn't known enough to be the greatest. The greatest should be a household name. Everyone in America should've heard at least one song by the "Greatest American Rockband" or at the very least heard their name.
Black keys is really the only option IMO.
Now if we're talking all time it has to be The ABB, The Grateful Dead or CCR.
They're the only ones that combine legacy, musicianship and popularity at a high enough degree IMO. No one HATES those three bands and everyone can sing along to one of their songs.
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Posted on 3/7/13 at 1:42 am to CottonWasKing
the Dead is still the only answer
Posted on 3/7/13 at 1:47 am to Blue Velvet
I agree but the only thing keeping them ahead of the allman brothers band is the army of deadheads that followed them. They were the face of a cultural movement and like it or not the hippie movement is pretty goddamn American.
Posted on 3/7/13 at 1:49 am to CottonWasKing
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He didnt specify modern era..... He specifically said that we should choose from any era
then it's even more simple.
elvis presley and the jordinares.
i wouldn't know a black keys if I heard them.
CCR is a sham. "born on the bayou" --- whatever.
obviously The Dead and ABB are personal favorites. on any given night both were capable of being the greatest, --- or the worst. that made them the most exciting.
talking heads, ramones, alex chilton have to be considered.
REM brought us all back from the electronic music that ecstasy led us to believe sounded good.
all that being said, but from a technical stand point of "greatest", I'll go with North Mississippi Allstars followed closely by Mule.
NMAS gets the nod because of percussion.
Posted on 3/7/13 at 1:55 am to Rebel
Maybe it's sacreligous to say this in the world of rock but I'll say it anyway
I frickING HATE ELVIS.
And if you've watched TV in the past 5 years you know a black keys song. You might not know its them but it is physically impossible to walk through today's world without hearing their music on at least a weekly basis.
And if you want to discuss "greatest talent" then I'll whole heartedly agree with you on NMAS but I think more has to go into a "Greatest" conversation than just talent.
Like I said earlier you need: Legacy, musicianship and popularity...... Very few bands can achieve all three and that's what makes them great.
I frickING HATE ELVIS.
And if you've watched TV in the past 5 years you know a black keys song. You might not know its them but it is physically impossible to walk through today's world without hearing their music on at least a weekly basis.
And if you want to discuss "greatest talent" then I'll whole heartedly agree with you on NMAS but I think more has to go into a "Greatest" conversation than just talent.
Like I said earlier you need: Legacy, musicianship and popularity...... Very few bands can achieve all three and that's what makes them great.
Posted on 3/7/13 at 2:00 am to CottonWasKing
36,086 songs, 2,317 shows, 298 cities, 30 years, 11 members, 1 band
Posted on 3/7/13 at 2:06 am to CottonWasKing
Allman Brothers Band & The Greatful Dead are the two greatest America rock bands of all time. Duane Allman is the kicker for AAB. He was an unreal guitar player unrivaled in many ways.
The Doors would be my third choice. I would put them first but the jam band geeks would have a fit.
The Doors would be my third choice. I would put them first but the jam band geeks would have a fit.
Posted on 3/7/13 at 2:09 am to Citizen Kane
quote:Who knows what could have been? They're at a disadvantage because their career was cut so short; but damn their music is awesome.
The Doors
Posted on 3/7/13 at 2:12 am to Poodlebrain
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Metallica is the greatest American rock band of all time, and there isn't a close second.
Posted on 3/7/13 at 2:12 am to Citizen Kane
Posted on 3/7/13 at 2:16 am to Blue Velvet
The doors would've become as big or bigger icons that the dead or ABB.... They would've eventually ventured into the jam band formula as well and hell they probably would've expanded on it.
I think if the doors would've lasted long enough.... Wait, let me rephrase that..... I think if Jim Morrison would've lasted long enough they would probably be an easy number 1 in this conversation. They would've definitely gotten more into improvisation, hell they're jazz back ground damn near demanded it.
But...... They didnt. So they're not.
I think if the doors would've lasted long enough.... Wait, let me rephrase that..... I think if Jim Morrison would've lasted long enough they would probably be an easy number 1 in this conversation. They would've definitely gotten more into improvisation, hell they're jazz back ground damn near demanded it.
But...... They didnt. So they're not.
Posted on 3/7/13 at 2:22 am to CottonWasKing
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This post was edited on 3/7/13 at 2:23 am
Posted on 3/7/13 at 2:22 am to CottonWasKing
you're comments conflict one another.
Elvis is The King.
think how you will, but it will never change that fact. it's more crazy for me that a childhood neighbor was this iconic rock figure. a half million people show up every every Aug 16th to attend the candlelight vigil, 35 years after his death.
hate all you want, but name something come close.
you don't hate Elvis. you just don't understand, yet. trust me on this.
think of it like this. you chose "CottonWasKing". I would have chosen "For What it's Worth"
Cotton was a song WSP wrote and played. FWIW was The First song WSP ever played.
and on the real, i have no clue what the black keys are. don't know and don't care.
Elvis is The King.
think how you will, but it will never change that fact. it's more crazy for me that a childhood neighbor was this iconic rock figure. a half million people show up every every Aug 16th to attend the candlelight vigil, 35 years after his death.
hate all you want, but name something come close.
you don't hate Elvis. you just don't understand, yet. trust me on this.
think of it like this. you chose "CottonWasKing". I would have chosen "For What it's Worth"
Cotton was a song WSP wrote and played. FWIW was The First song WSP ever played.
and on the real, i have no clue what the black keys are. don't know and don't care.
Posted on 3/7/13 at 2:22 am to CottonWasKing
quote:
I think if the doors would've lasted long enough.... Wait, let me rephrase that..... I think if Jim Morrison would've lasted long enough they would probably be an easy number 1 in this conversation. They would've definitely gotten more into improvisation, hell they're jazz back ground damn near demanded it.
But...... They didnt. So they're not.
well put. Morrison saw it coming too LINK
eta: You could also say the same thing about ABB with Duane Allman dieing in 1971
This post was edited on 3/7/13 at 2:28 am
Posted on 3/7/13 at 2:32 am to Blue Velvet
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36,086 songs, 2,317 shows, 298 cities, 30 years, 11 members, 1 band
i've had about 5 of those shirts. still have that says 9 members.
Posted on 3/7/13 at 3:22 am to Rebel
Elvis is the king I won't deny that. He started it all (Althought that can be argued and even if he did start it all it was a natural progression that would've been created by someone around that same period). I respect the hell out of Elvis. I just think the music he made was terrible. If that was the rock and roll of my day then I wouldn't have been a fan of rock n roll. Once again I respect what he did for the genre but beyond that I've got nothing for him.
I chose Cotton Was King because I'm a panic fan that grew up in a farming family. It has nothing to do with the actual song I don't even particularly care for the song nor that album as a whole minus a few tracks. I just thought it was a cool name that fit me.
I gues I could've picked my favorite Panic songs but expiration day, lets get the show on the road and chainsaw city just don't have the same ring to it. Plus Fishwater was already taken.
But I still hold to the belief that FWIW is the greatest song that panic has ever played..... Simply because it may be the best song ever written imo
quote:
think of it like this. you chose "CottonWasKing". I would have chosen "For What it's Worth" Cotton was a song WSP wrote and played. FWIW was The First song WSP ever played.
I chose Cotton Was King because I'm a panic fan that grew up in a farming family. It has nothing to do with the actual song I don't even particularly care for the song nor that album as a whole minus a few tracks. I just thought it was a cool name that fit me.
I gues I could've picked my favorite Panic songs but expiration day, lets get the show on the road and chainsaw city just don't have the same ring to it. Plus Fishwater was already taken.
But I still hold to the belief that FWIW is the greatest song that panic has ever played..... Simply because it may be the best song ever written imo
Posted on 3/7/13 at 8:49 am to Rebel
Not the biggest RHCP fan but they have to be in the discussion.
Posted on 3/7/13 at 8:54 am to Citizen Kane
quote:
well put. Morrison saw it coming too LINK eta: You could also say the same thing about ABB with Duane Allman dieing in 1971
The doors died with Morrison, ABB was just beginning there fame when Duane died. ABB is still selling out the beacon and hosting their own festival 40 years later.
Posted on 3/7/13 at 9:28 am to Baloo
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But I think the defining element of American rock is that it is fiercely independent and does not need industry support
I might have missed it, but for the modern part, how has no one brought up White Stripes?
Posted on 3/7/13 at 9:31 am to Meursault
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In your opinion, who personifies the image in your mind as "the great American rock band"?
Whitesnake
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