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re: Randy Moss claims he's the GOAT WR

Posted on 1/29/13 at 11:31 am to
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 1/29/13 at 11:31 am to
Moss at his best >> Rice at his best

Whatever that means, i think it should be acknowledged.
Posted by Swat5
Houston
Member since May 2010
2417 posts
Posted on 1/29/13 at 11:32 am to
People are really arguing that Moss is the greatest of ALL TIME over Rice?

I love this place

Many experts believe Rice was the greatest Football Player of all time..not just WR
This post was edited on 1/29/13 at 11:35 am
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112238 posts
Posted on 1/29/13 at 11:36 am to
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People are really arguing that Moss is the greatest of ALL TIME over Rice?


Nobodys really said that
Posted by SPEEDY
2005 Tiger Smack Poster of the Year
Member since Dec 2003
83344 posts
Posted on 1/29/13 at 11:37 am to
quote:


quote:

@JerryRice just responded, "Put my numbers up against his numbers."


Yeah

So says the compiler that stuck around so long that he eventually got cut


This is Randy Moss' 14th year in the league. Let's compare his career numbers to Rice's after his 14th year in the league.


.............REC...YARDS....AVG....TD
Moss.....982.....15,292....15.6.....156
Rice...1,139......17,612....15.5.....164



Moss has played in 218 career games. After his 1999 season, Rice had played in 222 career games. When you compare Moss to Rice at that point in Rice's career, the gap only widens


.............REC...YARDS....AVG....TD
Moss.....982.....15,292....15.6.....156
Rice...1,206......18,442....15.3.....169



And you reference him as a compiler. Well Rice's career per game average is still greater than Moss' even though Moss played in almost 100 less games

Receptions per game:
Moss: 4.5
Rice: 5.1

Receiving yards per game:
Moss: 70.1
Rice: 75.6


And Rice caught over 90 passes for more than 1,200 yards as a 40 year old and made the Pro Bowl. That's far from a compiler
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
Simcoe Strip - He/Him/Helicopter
Member since Oct 2011
36235 posts
Posted on 1/29/13 at 11:37 am to
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He wouldve been if he had his head on as straight as Jerry did

this
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
34187 posts
Posted on 1/29/13 at 11:50 am to
I love Moss. Probably my favorite WR of all time. Him being a country dude and Rice being almost unbearable to listen to on ESPN (I mean seriously, he is so bland and cant get any sentence out right), makes me like Moss a lot more over Rice. Moss was definitely faster, but Rice was a better route runner.

Moss (has) played 14 years with 15,000 yards.
Rice played 20 years with about 23,000 yards.
If Moss would have played the number of years Rice did, averaging 1,000 per season, he still wouldnt have more yards than Rice. Rice had four 1,500 yard seasons and Moss only had one.

Rice's best season: 122rec, 1,848 yards and 15 TD's
Moss: 111rec, 1,632 yards and 17 TD's.
edit: I like these two seasons better than Rice's 22 TD year and Moss' 23.

I like Moss a lot better, but Rice is the GOAT.
This post was edited on 1/29/13 at 11:52 am
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59067 posts
Posted on 1/29/13 at 11:51 am to
quote:

Moss at his best >> Rice at his best

Whatever that means, i think it should be acknowledged.


whatever it means its false
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
34187 posts
Posted on 1/29/13 at 11:52 am to
quote:

Moss at his best >> Rice at his best


How is that?
Posted by jimithing11
Dillon, Texas
Member since Mar 2011
22471 posts
Posted on 1/29/13 at 11:54 am to
Moss ran fly routes

Congratufrickinglations

No ones cares if he's a better athlete. Moss didn't say that, he said greatest WR

If we want to include athletic ability, then technically Tron is the GOAT. Faster and a better route runner than Moss

DWI
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
71968 posts
Posted on 1/29/13 at 11:58 am to
Moss at his best (2003)

111 recs
1,632 yards
17 TDs

Rice at his best (1995)

122 recs
1,848 yards
15 TDs
Posted by baytiger
Boston
Member since Dec 2007
46978 posts
Posted on 1/29/13 at 12:00 pm to
quote:



He compiled stats by staying in the league too long

if he stayed in the league too long, as you claim, he wouldn't have compiled notable stats in his last few years.
Posted by bigeztiger
Columbus Ohio
Member since Jul 2011
5092 posts
Posted on 1/29/13 at 12:05 pm to
Rice has 500+ more receptions
Rice has 7000+ more yards
Rice has 40+ more TDS


RICE >>>>> MOSS
Posted by RemouladeSawce
Uranus
Member since Sep 2008
13912 posts
Posted on 1/29/13 at 12:06 pm to
Moss is the most talented receiver of all-time. More talented than Rice.

What set Rice apart as a player was his work ethic was unmatched by anyone in the league. Perhaps all-time. He didn't come into the league as the GOAT. He worked his arse off for it start to finish on his hills.

If Moss had Rice's ethic he'd have been amongst the greatest athletes to ever live. Instead he's just a great player who could've been better.
This post was edited on 1/29/13 at 12:09 pm
Posted by RonBurgundy
Whale's Vagina(San Diego)
Member since Oct 2005
13302 posts
Posted on 1/29/13 at 12:07 pm to
quote:

Jerry Rice played about 3 or 4 years too many IMO

He compiled stats by staying in the league too long




Randy Moss retired. Why would he come back if not to compile stats?

eta: you must be too young to remember prime Rice, whom by the way is considered by many to be THE BEST FOOTBALL PLAYER OF ALL TIME NFL Network says so
This post was edited on 1/29/13 at 12:11 pm
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
34187 posts
Posted on 1/29/13 at 12:07 pm to
Megatron has had two crazy good years in a row. I like last years season better than this years. He had about 300 more yards this year, and broke the all time record , but he had 11 more TD's last year.

If Andre Johnson had been healthy his whole career, he would have some really really good stat totals for the number of years he's been in the league. And if Fitzgerald had a good QB his stats would be scary too. How he racked up 1,400 yards last year blows my mind.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
34187 posts
Posted on 1/29/13 at 12:09 pm to
quote:

Moss at his best (2003)

111 recs
1,632 yards
17 TDs

Rice at his best (1995)

122 recs
1,848 yards
15 TDs


Beat you to it
Posted by Dubosed
Gulf Breeze
Member since Nov 2012
7036 posts
Posted on 1/29/13 at 12:16 pm to
Randy had studs like Jeff George,Randal Cunningham,Dante Cullpepper, and Kerry Collins tossing him the ball most of his career

It is unreal what he has accomplished in his career.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22776 posts
Posted on 1/29/13 at 12:38 pm to
Well Rice played his career with Montana, Young, and Gannon. That's a solid QB list.
Posted by Jumbeauxlaya
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
18083 posts
Posted on 1/29/13 at 12:40 pm to
quote:

This is Randy Moss' 14th year in the league. Let's compare his career numbers to Rice's after his 14th year in the league.


.............REC...YARDS....AVG....TD
Moss.....982.....15,292....15.6.....156
Rice...1,139......17,612....15.5.....164



Moss has played in 218 career games. After his 1999 season, Rice had played in 222 career games. When you compare Moss to Rice at that point in Rice's career, the gap only widens


.............REC...YARDS....AVG....TD
Moss.....982.....15,292....15.6.....156
Rice...1,206......18,442....15.3.....169



And you reference him as a compiler. Well Rice's career per game average is still greater than Moss' even though Moss played in almost 100 less games

Receptions per game:
Moss: 4.5
Rice: 5.1

Receiving yards per game:
Moss: 70.1
Rice: 75.6


And Rice caught over 90 passes for more than 1,200 yards as a 40 year old and made the Pro Bowl. That's far from a compiler


Done, thread, this, moss lovers go eat a bag of dicks, etc.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162194 posts
Posted on 1/29/13 at 12:40 pm to
quote:


that's retarded.

OK
quote:


Second of all, taking every WR at their peak I'd say Randy is #1, Jerry Rice wins bc of longevity and consistency though...


Ummm
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