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Dog Training Question
Posted on 3/3/12 at 4:35 pm
Posted on 3/3/12 at 4:35 pm
Just got a new pup last week and was wanting some advice/tips for othe OBers who've trained retrievers.
He's an eight week old Boykin that I got a week ago. He's just starting to grasp the concert of fetch when we toss the tennis ball around in the backyard, but I was wondering what the next step is or when I should actually start "training". I've read the book "WaterDog" and I believe it mentioned using weeks 8-12 to work on obience training (sit, stay, heel, etc), and then more retriever training after he's 13+ weeks.
I've never trained a retriever before, and am not really looking for a hard-core, field champion result. Just a mindful dog that can pick up a few doves or greenheads when I take him along (and with me in AL now thats not as much as I'd like).
Any thoughts?
He's an eight week old Boykin that I got a week ago. He's just starting to grasp the concert of fetch when we toss the tennis ball around in the backyard, but I was wondering what the next step is or when I should actually start "training". I've read the book "WaterDog" and I believe it mentioned using weeks 8-12 to work on obience training (sit, stay, heel, etc), and then more retriever training after he's 13+ weeks.
I've never trained a retriever before, and am not really looking for a hard-core, field champion result. Just a mindful dog that can pick up a few doves or greenheads when I take him along (and with me in AL now thats not as much as I'd like).
Any thoughts?
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Posted on 3/3/12 at 4:49 pm to fillmoregandt
I would work on sit and come for now and use fetching for play.
Posted on 3/3/12 at 4:51 pm to fillmoregandt
find a friend with a retriever who trained it himself. they'll be a good person to bounce simple questions off.
its not impossible, but it requires alot of time. there have been numerous threads on retriever training in last year or so. yea i know the search function sucks but you could pick some of the unique topics discussed in some of those. im sure others will chime in with numerous suggestions, tips, and tricks.
i'll go ahead and start with one that i wish i would have done sooner. get him/her on real wings as soon as possible. don't over work him and stress him out while its a puppy!!! let it be a puppy.
my current bird dog is my first and there is much to be learned. i have some extra wings and feathers in the freezer if your interested assuming your in BR.
get a shock collar /thread/
its not impossible, but it requires alot of time. there have been numerous threads on retriever training in last year or so. yea i know the search function sucks but you could pick some of the unique topics discussed in some of those. im sure others will chime in with numerous suggestions, tips, and tricks.
i'll go ahead and start with one that i wish i would have done sooner. get him/her on real wings as soon as possible. don't over work him and stress him out while its a puppy!!! let it be a puppy.
my current bird dog is my first and there is much to be learned. i have some extra wings and feathers in the freezer if your interested assuming your in BR.
get a shock collar /thread/
This post was edited on 3/3/12 at 4:55 pm
Posted on 3/3/12 at 5:26 pm to fillmoregandt
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I would work on sit and come for now and use fetching for play.
Yes, if he is 8 weeks old, he is old enough to learn this. Get a rope and teach him to sit and come on voice and whistle.
Posted on 3/3/12 at 5:52 pm to GonePecan
Yeah he's getting better at sit. I'm trying not to get him hooked on treats but when I do I try to make him sit for it. When I feed him he goes nuts and won't sit long enough for me to drop the bowl down. We'll work on stay once he gets sit down
He already knows his name and is making a progress day by day. I've only had him a week, and today was the first full day I've been able to spend with him
He's awesome though. Very happy with a Boykin. I'll try to gets some pics if I figure it out
He already knows his name and is making a progress day by day. I've only had him a week, and today was the first full day I've been able to spend with him
He's awesome though. Very happy with a Boykin. I'll try to gets some pics if I figure it out
Posted on 3/3/12 at 6:38 pm to fillmoregandt
Good idea on not getting him expecting the treats, also use lots of praise in place of treats.
Posted on 3/3/12 at 7:13 pm to fillmoregandt
I didn't really read the other posts,
but, this time period is the most important for you to build a bond with the puppy. Positive reinforcement is key. It should take to sit, stay and come consistently.
As for retrieving.....just play. Let that come naturally for right now. You can set rules and expectations once it is 3-5 months old.
Good luck!!
but, this time period is the most important for you to build a bond with the puppy. Positive reinforcement is key. It should take to sit, stay and come consistently.
As for retrieving.....just play. Let that come naturally for right now. You can set rules and expectations once it is 3-5 months old.
Good luck!!
Posted on 3/3/12 at 7:33 pm to fillmoregandt
Most important thing is to not "see if he is gunshy" by shooting a gun around him, and do not let him be near fireworks. There's proper ways to get a dog accostumed with guns and shooting one to see how he reacts is not it.
Posted on 3/3/12 at 8:54 pm to UpToPar
Water Dog
That is all
That is all
Posted on 3/3/12 at 10:28 pm to fillmoregandt
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This post was edited on 3/3/12 at 10:32 pm
Posted on 3/3/12 at 10:31 pm to fillmoregandt
This is the book I used from a puppy... My lab was HRCH (champion) in field trials. I definitely recommend the shock collar around 6 months
Posted on 3/3/12 at 10:37 pm to GetMoney11
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Water Dog
That is all
agree completely....old book, but still dead on...
Posted on 3/3/12 at 10:50 pm to GetMoney11
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Water Dog
I read that and will probably read it again here shortly. My main focus for the next few (3-4) weeks is going to be sit, stay, come, and heel when we go for walks. Today was really the first time he started fetching (when we tossed the tennis ball). WATERDOG made sure that he could sit, stay before he could start retreiving, which wa mostly in need for blinds and complicated retreives.
We're still taking baby (puppy) steps, but making progresss. Still bring on any tips or advise from past experiences because shite never goes as it says in the book
Posted on 3/3/12 at 11:50 pm to fillmoregandt
Get a good kennel. Don't be afraid to whip em. Put them on a schedule (walks, feeding, etc). Get some scent and put on the tennis ball or what ever is being retrieved. CHEW TOYS and Pig ears. Spend time and develop a bond with it.
That's bout all I can think of that won't be covered in a book.
That's bout all I can think of that won't be covered in a book.
Posted on 3/4/12 at 8:33 am to GetMoney11
Posted on 3/7/12 at 1:53 pm to bbvdd
arhrc.org and welcome to the show. I watched a Boykin pass the Grand last year recieving his title. Neat little dogs to watch. We will have our spring hunt-test this month in Jackson so come out and watch the dogs run. I'm sure there will be a boykin or two in the mix.
Great folks with lots of dog training knowledge.
Great folks with lots of dog training knowledge.
Posted on 3/7/12 at 9:27 pm to fillmoregandt
I'm gettin my new pup on the 17th. She'll be 8 weeks, chocolate lab with champ sire and dam. I've talked to a lot of trainers lately and I've heard echoed a lot is don't whip them with your hands if you intend on teaching hand signals, and also up until around 5 or 6 months is play time. Don't stress them out but you can work with them ten minutes or so a day teaching them basics like sit, stay, come, place and bathroom habits.
Posted on 3/7/12 at 10:08 pm to tigah headache
Work on ob and only OB for the first 6 months. Marking can be done some but the foundation of everything you do for the rest of the dogs life is based on OB. Marking would be my second highest priority afterwards.
Posted on 3/7/12 at 11:17 pm to Cracker
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quote:
This is the book I used from a puppy... My lab was HRCH (champion) in field trials. I definitely recommend the shock collar around 6 months
First and foremost. Hrch is not from field trials...but from hunting tests....this my friend is a BIG difference....
I have done both...and passed hunting tests and won field trials..
Do not confuse the two...
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