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Are National Parks Constitutional?


They seem beyond the scope of government.






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RogerTheShrubber
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I am really torn on the issue. I really love NP's and would prefer a system of trusts to the current system though. But I am not going to complain about something I really dig too much. Certainly conflicts with my ideology.


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I feel similarly. I love love love nature and plants and have visited several NP's. I'm not going to be starting a petition to shut them down or anything, but I'm watching the "National Parks" documentary series and had this thought.





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but I'm watching the "National Parks" documentary series and had this thought.



The one by Ken Burns...? Kinda drags after the first two though.






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just another reason why Teddy Roosevelt was a horrible President





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The one by Ken Burns...?


that's the one
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Kinda drags after the first two though.



I bet they're at least cool to look at, though.






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just another reason why Teddy Roosevelt was a horrible President



Do you think they would have ever come into existence if not for TR?






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Are National Parks Constitutional?
They seem beyond the scope of government


I was actually thinking about this topic yesterday as I was driving through the Sawtooth National Recreation Area. I just got to wondering where the federal government got its authority to just go willy-nilly protecting all these lands. Not that I'm complaining because I'm a moderate to heavy user of public lands, but still....it doesn't seem constitutional.


But even beyond the constitutional issue, by the feds controlling so much land, especially out west, it essentially takes away a states ability to guide its own development, and removes a lot of land from the tax rolls. Check out this image:




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RogerTheShrubber
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The one by Ken Burns...?


that's the one
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It's pretty damn good though. I have read a couple of John Muir's books. I was surprised at how some "captains of Industry" (Mather) were so instrumental with their effort and money to further the process.






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4cubbies
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Holy shite. The federal government owns nearly all of Nevada.





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I don't know what to think about this issue.. There is a huge demand for recreational parks, I just don't know if it'd be recognized on the large scale in the private sector as is done under the NPS. I struggle with this issue as a Libertarian.





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WikiTiger



Did you know that people can carry loaded guns in National Parks?

LINK






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No.





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WikiTiger
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Did you know that people can carry loaded guns in National Parks?


As it should be.


I was out shooting in the Snake River Birds of Prey National Conservation Area today. Fun times.






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But even beyond the constitutional issue, by the feds controlling so much land, especially out west, it essentially takes away a states ability to guide its own development, and removes a lot of land from the tax rolls


Not to mention it eats up supply and passes the higher prices to the consumer.






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I struggle with this issue as a Libertarian.


It's a tough call. It's an example of people realizing the government is acting tyrannical, but it's "feel good legislation" so no one says anything.






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National parks would be more efficient as chili's and ross dress for less's.





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AUsteriskPride
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Did you know that people can carry loaded guns in National Parks?


That just went into law this year didn't it? It was long overdue.






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AUsteriskPride
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It's an example of people realizing the government is acting tyrannical, but it's "feel good legislation" so no one says anything.



Very true.. It makes me feel like a dirty hypocrite






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RogerTheShrubber
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I don't know what to think about this issue.. There is a huge demand for recreational parks, I just don't know if it'd be recognized on the large scale in the private sector as is done under the NPS. I struggle with this issue as a Libertarian.


I would prefer a system of trusts. If that fails, I am not going to complain about national parks though. If you have ever been in these wild places and felt like you were the first person to ever see it, pretty powerful experience. Selfish? Damn right but it's something I enjoy as well as many.

The US isn't Europe and we haven't fricked up our wild spaces yet. There is value in preservation. Again, I would prefer a system of trusts, but figure you can meander your way enough around the constitution to justify it (like anything) if you choose.






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