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Quarterback Comparison by Drives (UT, UF, and MSU)
Posted on 10/17/10 at 12:45 pm
Posted on 10/17/10 at 12:45 pm
Tennessee - Jefferson
1. Jefferson 83 yard run
Touchdown
2. Jefferson 0/1 – INT
Jefferson 5 yard run
Team 1 yard run
Interception
3. Jefferson 3/5 30 yards
Team – 4 carries, 16 yards
Fumble – Peterson fumbles stretching for the marker on a short pass on third down
4. Jefferson 0/2
Team – 4 carries 28 yards
*Lee Illegal Forward Pass
Punt
5. Jefferson 0/2 – INT
Team – 3 carries, 13 yards
Interception
6. Jefferson 2 carries 11 yards
Team 4 carries 35 yards
*Lee 0/1
Field Goal
7. Jefferson 1/2 26 yards
Jefferson 1 carry 9 yards
Team 4 carries 0 yards
Field Goal
8. Jefferson 2/4 30 yards INT
Team 4 carries 14 yards
Interception
9. Jefferson 1 carry 5 yards
Team 2 carries 4 yards
Punt
10. Jefferson 1/1 -1 yard
Jefferson 2 carries 23 yards
Team 1 carry -1 yard
Field Goal
11. Jefferson 2/2 16 yards
Jefferson 2 carries -6 yards
Team 3 carries 15 yards
Punt
12. Jefferson 1/3 29 yards
Jefferson 1 carry 0 yards
Team 2 carries 4 yards
Punt
13. Jefferson 3/4 29 yards
Team 1 carry 5 yards
*Jefferson fumble on the option (?)
Punt
14. Jefferson 2 carries -17 yards FUM
Team 1 carry 8 yards
Fumble
15. Jefferson 1 carry 1 yard
Team 2 carries 6 yards
Punt
16. Jefferson 1/1 -1 yard
Team 2 carries 7 yards
Punt
17. Jefferson 1/1 0 yards
Team 5 carries 17 yards
Field Goal
Lee
1. Lee 4/5 30 yards
Missed FG
2. Lee 2/2 28 yards
Lee – 13 yard run
Team – 2 carries 6 yards
Punt
3. Lee ½ 9 yards
Team – 4 carries, 15 yards
Punt
4. Lee 2/3 56 yards - INT
Team 1 carry 4 yards
Interception - *Who throws a fade to a RB?
5. 7/9 62 yards
Lee 1 carry -4 yards
Team 5 carries, 13 yards
*Jefferson 1 yard run
Touchdown
6. Lee 3/4 20 yards
Team 9 carries 57 yards
*Jefferson 2 carries, 3 yards
Touchdown
7. Lee 1/1 38 yards
Team 1 carry 1 yard
Touchdown
8. Lee 1/1 12 yards
Team 7 carries 23 yards
*Jefferson 2 carries 8 yards
9. Lee 1/1 5 yards
Team 2 carries 3 yards
Punt
10. Lee 3/5 51 yards TD *includes a spike
Team 5 carries 11 yards
Jasper 1 carry 5 yards
Touchdown
11. Lee 2/2 14 yards
Team 4 carries 11 yards
Touchdown
12. 4/5 36 yards
Team 3 carries 20 yards
Touchdown
13. Lee 2/4 9 yards
Lee 1 carry 7 yards
Team 5 carries 11 yards
*Jasper 11 yard run
Missed Field Goal
14. Lee 0/2
Team 2 carries 12 yards
Punt
15. Lee 1/1 16 yards
Team 5 carries 37 yards
Touchdown
16. Lee 0/2
Lee 1 carry -7 yards
17. Team 5 carries 69 yards
Touchdown
1. Jefferson 83 yard run
Touchdown
2. Jefferson 0/1 – INT
Jefferson 5 yard run
Team 1 yard run
Interception
3. Jefferson 3/5 30 yards
Team – 4 carries, 16 yards
Fumble – Peterson fumbles stretching for the marker on a short pass on third down
4. Jefferson 0/2
Team – 4 carries 28 yards
*Lee Illegal Forward Pass
Punt
5. Jefferson 0/2 – INT
Team – 3 carries, 13 yards
Interception
6. Jefferson 2 carries 11 yards
Team 4 carries 35 yards
*Lee 0/1
Field Goal
7. Jefferson 1/2 26 yards
Jefferson 1 carry 9 yards
Team 4 carries 0 yards
Field Goal
8. Jefferson 2/4 30 yards INT
Team 4 carries 14 yards
Interception
9. Jefferson 1 carry 5 yards
Team 2 carries 4 yards
Punt
10. Jefferson 1/1 -1 yard
Jefferson 2 carries 23 yards
Team 1 carry -1 yard
Field Goal
11. Jefferson 2/2 16 yards
Jefferson 2 carries -6 yards
Team 3 carries 15 yards
Punt
12. Jefferson 1/3 29 yards
Jefferson 1 carry 0 yards
Team 2 carries 4 yards
Punt
13. Jefferson 3/4 29 yards
Team 1 carry 5 yards
*Jefferson fumble on the option (?)
Punt
14. Jefferson 2 carries -17 yards FUM
Team 1 carry 8 yards
Fumble
15. Jefferson 1 carry 1 yard
Team 2 carries 6 yards
Punt
16. Jefferson 1/1 -1 yard
Team 2 carries 7 yards
Punt
17. Jefferson 1/1 0 yards
Team 5 carries 17 yards
Field Goal
Lee
1. Lee 4/5 30 yards
Missed FG
2. Lee 2/2 28 yards
Lee – 13 yard run
Team – 2 carries 6 yards
Punt
3. Lee ½ 9 yards
Team – 4 carries, 15 yards
Punt
4. Lee 2/3 56 yards - INT
Team 1 carry 4 yards
Interception - *Who throws a fade to a RB?
5. 7/9 62 yards
Lee 1 carry -4 yards
Team 5 carries, 13 yards
*Jefferson 1 yard run
Touchdown
6. Lee 3/4 20 yards
Team 9 carries 57 yards
*Jefferson 2 carries, 3 yards
Touchdown
7. Lee 1/1 38 yards
Team 1 carry 1 yard
Touchdown
8. Lee 1/1 12 yards
Team 7 carries 23 yards
*Jefferson 2 carries 8 yards
9. Lee 1/1 5 yards
Team 2 carries 3 yards
Punt
10. Lee 3/5 51 yards TD *includes a spike
Team 5 carries 11 yards
Jasper 1 carry 5 yards
Touchdown
11. Lee 2/2 14 yards
Team 4 carries 11 yards
Touchdown
12. 4/5 36 yards
Team 3 carries 20 yards
Touchdown
13. Lee 2/4 9 yards
Lee 1 carry 7 yards
Team 5 carries 11 yards
*Jasper 11 yard run
Missed Field Goal
14. Lee 0/2
Team 2 carries 12 yards
Punt
15. Lee 1/1 16 yards
Team 5 carries 37 yards
Touchdown
16. Lee 0/2
Lee 1 carry -7 yards
17. Team 5 carries 69 yards
Touchdown
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Posted on 10/17/10 at 12:48 pm to chilge1
Just give us the summary please.
Posted on 10/17/10 at 12:52 pm to Doc Fenton
quote:+1
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Posted by Doc Fenton
Just give us the summary please.
Posted on 10/17/10 at 12:54 pm to chilge1
Taking out the first TD run by Jefferson against Tennessee and the last drive against McNeese as anomalies, they compare in this way.
Lee 34/48 386 yards TD/INT
Team – 56 carries 231 yards = 4.125 ypc
*Lee 4 carries – 17 yards (3 sacks)
*Jefferson 5 carries 12 yards
* Jasper 2 carries 16 yards
Missed FG
Punt
Punt
Interception - *Who throws a fade to a RB?
Touchdown
Touchdown
Touchdown
Touchdown
Punt
Touchdown
Touchdown
Touchdown
Missed Field Goal
Punt
Touchdown
Jefferson 15/28 158 yards 3INT
Team 43 carries 172 yards = 4.00 ypc
*Jefferson 13 carries 31 yards (3 sacks) Fumble
Interception
Fumble – Peterson fumbles stretching for the marker on a short pass on third down
Punt - *Lee Illegal Forward Pass
Interception
Field Goal - *Lee 0/1
Field Goal
Interception
Punt
Field Goal
Punt
Punt
Punt - *Jefferson fumble on the option
Fumble
Punt
Punt
Field Goal
Lee 34/48 386 yards TD/INT
Team – 56 carries 231 yards = 4.125 ypc
*Lee 4 carries – 17 yards (3 sacks)
*Jefferson 5 carries 12 yards
* Jasper 2 carries 16 yards
Missed FG
Punt
Punt
Interception - *Who throws a fade to a RB?
Touchdown
Touchdown
Touchdown
Touchdown
Punt
Touchdown
Touchdown
Touchdown
Missed Field Goal
Punt
Touchdown
Jefferson 15/28 158 yards 3INT
Team 43 carries 172 yards = 4.00 ypc
*Jefferson 13 carries 31 yards (3 sacks) Fumble
Interception
Fumble – Peterson fumbles stretching for the marker on a short pass on third down
Punt - *Lee Illegal Forward Pass
Interception
Field Goal - *Lee 0/1
Field Goal
Interception
Punt
Field Goal
Punt
Punt
Punt - *Jefferson fumble on the option
Fumble
Punt
Punt
Field Goal
This post was edited on 10/17/10 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 10/17/10 at 12:54 pm to chilge1
quote:
4. Lee 2/3 56 yards - INT Team 1 carry 4 yards Interception - *Who throws a fade to a RB?
It was a wheel route. Ridley misjudged it, but the LB made a great play.
Posted on 10/17/10 at 12:54 pm to drexyl
JJ is our lucky underwear, no other explanation.
Posted on 10/17/10 at 12:55 pm to chilge1
And so...?
Posted on 10/17/10 at 12:58 pm to chilge1
All that needs to be said about this is that JJ has been solely responsible for 1 TD in the last 3 games...his 83 yd TD against Tennessee. Other than that, the offense under Lee's direction has been mostly responsible for every TD we've scored since then.
This post was edited on 10/17/10 at 12:59 pm
Posted on 10/17/10 at 12:59 pm to medtiger
quote:
All that needs to be said about this is that JJ has been solely responsible for 1 TD in the last 3 games...his 83 yd TD against Tennessee. Other than that, Lee has been mostly responsible for every TD we've scored since then.
Don't discount the turnovers.
Posted on 10/17/10 at 1:03 pm to chilge1
I did this last night and the reception was such that I thought that I'd throw together all three games.
There is absolutely no argument that Jefferson should see playing time at this point.
There is absolutely no argument that Jefferson should see playing time at this point.
Posted on 10/17/10 at 1:11 pm to chilge1
That's the conclusion the guys on the post game show came to.
Posted on 10/17/10 at 1:15 pm to chilge1
So -
Lee 8TDs, 2 punts
JJ 1 TD, 7 punts
Yo !, Les...
Lee 8TDs, 2 punts
JJ 1 TD, 7 punts
Yo !, Les...
This post was edited on 10/17/10 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 10/17/10 at 1:44 pm to ccomeaux
quote:
Lee 8TDs, 2 punts
JJ 1 TD, 7 punts
Why isn't any local media calling Les Miles out on this? Les Miles always says the reason he is running 2 QB system is that both QBs bring different skills to the game. The skill JJ is bringing is turnovers and punts while JL is bringing scores.
Posted on 10/17/10 at 2:12 pm to chilge1
quote:
There is absolutely no argument that Jefferson should see playing time at this point
But there is... Les knows that over the next two years we will need both JL and JJ. He's gotten JL's confidence up and he's now doing very well. He's trying to get JJ's confidence up in hopes that he'll be the QB we had against Ga Tech. If we have both, our offense will be very tough to stop. As it is now, an injury to JL and we're screwed. Of course playing weaker personnel to develop them cost you some points, and Les is cutting it too close. But there is a reason to play JJ.
Posted on 10/17/10 at 2:27 pm to DocBugbear
But there is... Les knows that over the next two years we will need both JL and JJ. He's gotten JL's confidence up and he's now doing very well. He's trying to get JJ's confidence up in hopes that he'll be the QB we had against Ga Tech. If we have both, our offense will be very tough to stop. As it is now, an injury to JL and we're screwed. Of course playing weaker personnel to develop them cost you some points, and Les is cutting it too close. But there is a reason to play JJ.
DocBugbear
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Posted on 10/17/10 at 2:42 pm to DocBugbear
quote:
in hopes that he'll be the QB we had against Ga Tech.
This myth has got to stop.
We game planned for 1 sold month for GaTech. That got us up early, and GaTech didn't have the offensive plan to come from behind
In the 2nd half, JJ was 5/13 for 21 yards.Pretty much the same guy we are seeing, two years later.
Posted on 10/17/10 at 2:44 pm to TIsuGGER
It's not a myth. JJ has the potential to be that guy. Les wants him to be that guy and is trying to do that. Will it happen? Who the hell knows? Sure, JJ isn't playing anywhere close to that now, but we sure didn't think JL would be playing like this at the end of last year.
Posted on 10/17/10 at 2:44 pm to DocBugbear
quote:
he'll be the QB we had against Ga Tech.
In the second half, he was 5/11 and fumbled the ball in the endzone for what would have been a safety. I think he IS the quarterback we had against Georgia Tech. people just like to glorify him in that game because our ground game put up 160 yards and 4 TDs while our Defense held GT in check for the entire game... and because this represented a departure from how we had played earlier in the year, they somehow feel that Jefferson was responsible.
Georgia Tech was Jefferson's best game BY FAR, but he was still average at best.
Posted on 10/17/10 at 2:45 pm to Doc Fenton
In regards to last night, there's only one comparison needed.
4 yds vs. 4 TD's
4 yds vs. 4 TD's
Posted on 10/17/10 at 2:47 pm to chilge1
He may have been average, but he was effective and we moved the ball. Look, JJ is not doing a good job, but we really can't say for certain that JJ can't become one. We said the same things about JL.
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