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re: Small caliber deer rifle recommendations?

Posted on 7/22/13 at 11:35 am to
Posted by GreenTrout
Toledo Bend
Member since Jul 2013
1010 posts
Posted on 7/22/13 at 11:35 am to
It uses speed way more then it uses power. You wont find many people who will place a 243 on a shoulder and expect a decent result. It's just not ment to do that. It was no designed for larger game like deer, but we've made bullets large enough that it is capable of taking deer. Speed is its biggest advantage.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81604 posts
Posted on 7/22/13 at 11:35 am to
quote:

You wont find many people who will place a 243 on a shoulder and expect a decent result. It's just not ment to do that. It was no designed for larger game like deer, but we've made bullets large enough that it is capable of taking deer.
false.
Posted by GreenTrout
Toledo Bend
Member since Jul 2013
1010 posts
Posted on 7/22/13 at 11:36 am to
Alright well I'll agree to disagree then.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81604 posts
Posted on 7/22/13 at 11:37 am to
Posted by bulldog95
North Louisiana
Member since Jan 2011
20698 posts
Posted on 7/22/13 at 11:38 am to
I have a .270 WSM and 30-06.
Posted by DanTiger
Somewhere in Luziana
Member since Sep 2004
9480 posts
Posted on 7/22/13 at 11:38 am to
.223 loaded with 62gr Nosler Partitions. Make sure you don't buy a cheap Rossi as the barrel twist might not be able to handle anything above 55gr.
Posted by dat yat
Chef Pass
Member since Jun 2011
4306 posts
Posted on 7/22/13 at 11:40 am to

quote:

dear god



quote:

you must be a bad shot or something


For decades the 30-30 was the best light kicking, handy deer rifle around and it is still deadly inside 200 yards. Any of the 243 - 7-08 calibers mentioned in a bolt action will work. But the situation mentioned in the OP seemed like the perfect excuse to buy a cool little lever action.
Posted by ISmellMischief
Jodie's House
Member since Jan 2013
897 posts
Posted on 7/22/13 at 11:41 am to
.270 and shoot managed recoil. You get a bigger hole in deer with good blood trail but it doesnt kick bad.
Posted by oleyeller
Vols, Bitch
Member since Oct 2012
32021 posts
Posted on 7/22/13 at 11:42 am to
while i know a 223 will kill a deer, and im confideny i could place the shot in the spot to do it, i just wouldnt feel comfortable carrying anything less than 100 grains of lead into the woods for deer. Too many factors to go wrong
Posted by guesswho
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2011
1467 posts
Posted on 7/22/13 at 11:45 am to
I have a 30-30 my paw paw won in a poker game and it has killed many but I wanted a new rifle anyway
Posted by DanTiger
Somewhere in Luziana
Member since Sep 2004
9480 posts
Posted on 7/22/13 at 11:46 am to
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while i know a 223 will kill a deer, and im confideny i could place the shot in the spot to do it, i just wouldnt feel comfortable carrying anything less than 100 grains of lead into the woods for deer. Too many factors to go wrong


That is why the Nosler rounds are employed. They are double capped and have excellent penetration. My son has shot 11 deer with his .223, the largest being a 190lb buck, and all have dropped on the spot. I would not shoot a deer with a 55gr FMJ but I have no problem using the Nosler. The only people I have ever seen complain about the size of the round are those who have not shot a deer with one.
Posted by dat yat
Chef Pass
Member since Jun 2011
4306 posts
Posted on 7/22/13 at 11:46 am to
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The 243 is a good gun. It just requires that you take good shots and don't miss. My 7mm is a lot more forgiving because I know I'm going to cause an extreme amount of damage wherever I hit. The 243 needs a proper lung/heart shot.


All rounds require a proper shot. I'll take an accurate shot with a 243 0r 30-30 over sprayin and praying, or flinching before the shot with a magnum.
Posted by oleyeller
Vols, Bitch
Member since Oct 2012
32021 posts
Posted on 7/22/13 at 11:46 am to
quote:

I have a 30-30 my paw paw won in a poker game and it has killed many but I wanted a new rifle anyway


nothing wrong with that! Can never have enough.. hell i have several guns in the safe thats never had a bullet put in the chamber
Posted by hypnos
Member since Dec 2009
2227 posts
Posted on 7/22/13 at 11:47 am to
quote:

while i know a 223 will kill a deer, and im confideny i could place the shot in the spot to do it, i just wouldnt feel comfortable carrying anything less than 100 grains of lead into the woods for deer. Too many factors to go wrong


Uncles ex used to use a .223. She couldnt shoot for shite. Lead to many a deer lost from poor shot placement.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30458 posts
Posted on 7/22/13 at 11:57 am to
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All rounds require a proper shot. I'll take an accurate shot with a 243 0r 30-30 over sprayin and praying, or flinching before the shot with a magnum.


no truer statement out there..... got a but that spent well over 5k on a 300 mag rig.. and is 2 for 12 shooting with it...
Posted by oleyeller
Vols, Bitch
Member since Oct 2012
32021 posts
Posted on 7/22/13 at 12:01 pm to
quote:

no truer statement out there..... got a but that spent well over 5k on a 300 mag rig.. and is 2 for 12 shooting with it...

W
T
F

Is he blind in one eye?


and cant see out the other?
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 7/22/13 at 12:19 pm to
There is absolutely no reason to shoot a marginal caliber like a .243 when you can get a much more reliable performer in the 7mm-08 while maintaining negligible recoil.
Posted by upgrade
Member since Jul 2011
12981 posts
Posted on 7/22/13 at 12:23 pm to
I like the 234
It can and has killed plenty of deer,
But I think I'd pass on it for either a 260 or 7mm08

The only downfall to the 260 is lack of popularity
Posted by ISmellMischief
Jodie's House
Member since Jan 2013
897 posts
Posted on 7/22/13 at 12:32 pm to
quote:

All rounds require a proper shot. I'll take an accurate shot with a 243 0r 30-30 over sprayin and praying, or flinching before the shot with a magnum.


My son shot his first few with a 223 and the next few with 243. He has never lost one but made some high lung shots with the 243 and they ran 75 to 90 yards in a pine thicket with little to no blood. Him shooting the 270 with managed recoil has made my job easier. I also agree with the 30 30. they make a good hole.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81604 posts
Posted on 7/22/13 at 12:33 pm to
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There is absolutely no reason to shoot a marginal caliber like a .243 when you can get a much more reliable performer in the 7mm-08 while maintaining negligible recoil.
There's nothing marginal about a .243. You really should not post in rifle threads.
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