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re: Should't everyone be able to drive a manual transmission?
Posted on 5/10/14 at 10:03 am to MotorBoater
Posted on 5/10/14 at 10:03 am to MotorBoater
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What's sad is even 18-wheelers are starting to have automatics.
They finally started figuring out how to automatically control a transmission that works like a manual. Almost all high performance cars with automatics have what is basically a computer controlled manual transmission. The term "slushbox" is going away.
I can't wait till I'm finished breaking in my VW so I can drive it like it should be driven
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Posted on 5/10/14 at 10:15 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Almost all high performance cars with automatics have what is basically a computer controlled manual transmission.
I think what you are referring to is a dual-clutch automated manual, which uses a computer to shift the gears. Granted it is faster at shifting than a human, it is still less fun since you are simply pushing a button.
Posted on 5/10/14 at 10:27 am to Rebnbama
I dont know how and have no want to learn. Manuals are being phased out
Posted on 5/10/14 at 10:30 am to bapple
Point being, they use clutches rather than torque converters.
As much as I hate to say it, they really are better than the old three-pedal rigs
But that doesn't excuse you from the title of woman-bitch for not knowing how to work the stick.
As much as I hate to say it, they really are better than the old three-pedal rigs
But that doesn't excuse you from the title of woman-bitch for not knowing how to work the stick.
Posted on 5/10/14 at 10:31 am to TigerTatorTots
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Manuals are being phased out
IIRC, sales on manuals have been trending up since about 07
Posted on 5/10/14 at 10:38 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
I don't know a single person who owns one. Won't do any benefit for me
Posted on 5/10/14 at 10:39 am to TigerTatorTots
Yes you do, you know me.
Posted on 5/10/14 at 10:45 am to TigerTatorTots
Off the top of my head I know 6 people who own one. There's more of them out there than you think.
Posted on 5/10/14 at 10:47 am to Gaston
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Driving automatics is strange to me, I can't believe they don't stay still when you let the brakes off. Seems like theyd have figured out some sort of disengagement feature under say 900 rpms.
Yeah, it's called "N". There's a reason there is not much of a detent shifting to it from Drive.
Posted on 5/10/14 at 10:51 am to 7flat
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I'm moving to the mountains soon and have been looking for a manual for pulling a horse trailer.
Pretty much the worst thing you can do. Modern automatics can manage inclines much better than a manual these days. Electronically controlled torque converters allow for much better multiplication ratios for towing while being able to fully lock for highway cruising. Only thing you have to worry about is heat and adding a higher capacity oil cooler and changing ATF is much cheaper than a clutch job these days.
Posted on 5/10/14 at 10:51 am to Clames
You flip it into neutral at stop lights?
I don't think that's even the reason it's there. It's just out of gear between R and D. I think there should be a hydraulic clutch of sorts that should disengage under an rpm level, so in D the car would just idle in place.
I don't think that's even the reason it's there. It's just out of gear between R and D. I think there should be a hydraulic clutch of sorts that should disengage under an rpm level, so in D the car would just idle in place.
This post was edited on 5/10/14 at 10:55 am
Posted on 5/10/14 at 10:56 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
I know a few, but the numbers are dwindling. Auto shifters have gotten much better.
Posted on 5/10/14 at 11:05 am to Gaston
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I don't think that's even the reason it's there. It's just out of gear between R and D. I think there should be a hydraulic clutch of sorts that should disengage under an rpm level, so in D the car would just idle in place
If you had a transmission oil temp gauge on the vehicle and saw how fast it can go up idling in the summer you would too. There's no way to fully disengage a torque converter or stop the fluid from circulating within it without risk of burning something up. Plus such a system would need it's own clutch system to smooth things out when engaging/disengaging.
Posted on 5/10/14 at 11:10 am to Rebnbama
Everyone's first car should be stick.
Also driving school should be at least six months long and include wet and night driving and parallel parking should be on the test.
Most people I know can't. I have taught a few people.
I used to have a 67 mustang that had the heaviest clutch, if you could drive that you could drive anything.
Last car I was using to teach friends was a 99 Jetta with only a 9 pound clutch.
SO easy.
Also driving school should be at least six months long and include wet and night driving and parallel parking should be on the test.
Most people I know can't. I have taught a few people.
I used to have a 67 mustang that had the heaviest clutch, if you could drive that you could drive anything.
Last car I was using to teach friends was a 99 Jetta with only a 9 pound clutch.
SO easy.
Posted on 5/10/14 at 11:13 am to Clames
Gotcha. Makes perfect sense. I just never drive autos and it seems nutty.
Posted on 5/10/14 at 11:15 am to KingRanch
Ok, there is 1 person.
Posted on 5/10/14 at 11:16 am to Rebnbama
Learned how to drive with my dad's three-on-the-tree Chevy C-10. Floor shifting was a breeze after that.
Posted on 5/10/14 at 11:53 am to CroakaBait
Learned to drive a tractor early on, the kids to small to pick up hay drove the tractor or truck pulling the trailer. I drove a 3 speed on the column Ford when I worked for the town during the summers.
Posted on 5/10/14 at 11:56 am to Clames
You can get torque converters with higher stall levels, but this is harsh on all other components involved. Racers have been doing this for years.
Posted on 5/10/14 at 6:00 pm to TIGERFANZZ
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Why? What are the advantages of driving a stick shift unless you own one. I haven't ridden in a vehicle with a Manuel transmission since high school (25 years) & that was only because it was someone old beater hand me down.
It is good to know how to drive a tractor.
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