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re: Should I rent or buy equipment for my first backpacking/camping trip?

Posted on 5/15/14 at 3:53 pm to
Posted by Nodust
Member since Aug 2010
22631 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 3:53 pm to
Smart water bottles attach directly to the Sawyer also. Don't buy Nalgene bottles. Too expensive and too heavy.

I learned that lesson early. I saved a half pound by ditching the Nalgenes.
Posted by dltigers3
Collierville, TN
Member since Jun 2010
2127 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 8:35 pm to
Didnt know the smart bottles fit, I just use a regular auqafina bottle and the squeeze bags for the sawyer. I also use a 64oz platypus bag to fill up for night at camp so I am not constanly refilling.
Posted by dltigers3
Collierville, TN
Member since Jun 2010
2127 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 8:39 pm to
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This is the pack I use. I cut off alot of unnecessary straps. I also cut off all excess on the shoulder straps and waist band so it is custom fit to me. You would be surprised by the weight I saved by doing that.
Posted by Nodust
Member since Aug 2010
22631 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 8:40 pm to
I busted one of the Sawyer bags first use. Plus the bags are tough to fill in a shallow creek sometimes. Threads are the same.

I also use a Platypus hydration bladder. Hook the Sawyer filter inline with the hose. I can hang that from a branch and gravity filter 3 liters in no time. Normally fill that up and use in camp as needed. It is handy when I have my kids, which is always.

A guy in my kids troop took a 10 liter dry sack and rigged the filter on it. With a big group just fill it up and everyone can filter with it.
Posted by dltigers3
Collierville, TN
Member since Jun 2010
2127 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 8:47 pm to
Yea, I've heard the sawyer bags are prone to busting, but I've been lucky with mine so far. I need to figure out a gravity system for mine. I just have the platypus bags, I dont have the bladder for it. It is a pain filling up those damn bags though, but I have a system that seems to work now
Posted by 650Pirate
Lafayette, LA
Member since Apr 2014
174 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 9:41 pm to
What about borrowing gear? A lot of people have spare everything from when they upgraded and never got rid of the old. I'd check with your buddies before you spend dough on the larger items.
Posted by DosManos
Member since Oct 2013
3552 posts
Posted on 5/16/14 at 8:44 am to
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This is the pack I use. I cut off alot of unnecessary straps. I also cut off all excess on the shoulder straps and waist band so it is custom fit to me. You would be surprised by the weight I saved by doing that.



Wow- $63 is quite a steal. I may have to get this one. Looks like it weighs about 4.5 pounds which is probably fine for me since I'm new at this. What is the maximum amount of weight you would load it with?

Thanks for the recs everyone.
Posted by DosManos
Member since Oct 2013
3552 posts
Posted on 5/16/14 at 8:45 am to
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What about borrowing gear?


The only buddy I know who has gear to borrow is currently thru-hiking the Appalachian Trail and I can't make it all the way to his house before the trip to get some of his stuff. Good idea though.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18665 posts
Posted on 5/16/14 at 10:00 am to
Rei has an amazing return policy. You can always buy what you want, and then return what you don't really need after the trip.
Posted by DosManos
Member since Oct 2013
3552 posts
Posted on 5/16/14 at 10:09 am to
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Rei has an amazing return policy. You can always buy what you want, and then return what you don't really need after the trip.


Yeah, I recently became a member. I feel kinda bad doing that, but hell, that's why they have the policy I guess.
Posted by LSUintheNW
At your mom’s house
Member since Aug 2009
35748 posts
Posted on 5/16/14 at 11:30 am to
no, that's not why they have that policy.
Posted by DosManos
Member since Oct 2013
3552 posts
Posted on 5/16/14 at 11:42 am to
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no, that's not why they have that policy.



I didn't mean purchasing the product with the strict intention of returning after use.
Posted by dltigers3
Collierville, TN
Member since Jun 2010
2127 posts
Posted on 5/17/14 at 8:22 am to
I would bet if you leave the internal frame and everything in you could load it with up to 40lbs. I like to go lightweight though, so my base weight is 15lbs and I am at about 20-25 lbs with food and water. I took the internsl frame out of mine to cut some weight. Between that and removing unnecessary straps and buckles I have that pack well under 4 lbs.
Posted by Nodust
Member since Aug 2010
22631 posts
Posted on 5/17/14 at 8:42 am to
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my base weight is 15lbs and I am at about 20-25 lbs with food and water.

That is just about where I am. Clothing for winter hiking is what is killing my weight. Amazing how much weight clothing adds.

To the OP. Get all your gear first minus the pack. Weigh everything you want to take and see what volume you need. Then buy the pack that can tote the weight and volume.
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
19685 posts
Posted on 5/17/14 at 9:04 am to
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It's just hard to explain yourself having snow skis in the shed living in LA.


Yeah I get funny looks from people when they see my snowboard in the garage
Posted by dltigers3
Collierville, TN
Member since Jun 2010
2127 posts
Posted on 5/17/14 at 9:10 am to
Yea, winter stuff is killer, I really need to invest in a good down jacket. That crap is just so expensive.
Posted by Nodust
Member since Aug 2010
22631 posts
Posted on 5/17/14 at 6:26 pm to
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Yea, winter stuff is killer, I really need to invest in a good down jacket. That crap is just so expensive.


That's next on my list. Fleece is great. But bulky and heavy.
Posted by dltigers3
Collierville, TN
Member since Jun 2010
2127 posts
Posted on 5/17/14 at 11:02 pm to
Dicks had a down jacket on clearance a couple months back for $100 and 20% off that. I'm still kicking myself for not buying it
Posted by trumpedup
pville
Member since Nov 2012
123 posts
Posted on 5/17/14 at 11:27 pm to
Op, you can join the LA hiking club.
I bought almost all my gear used. It saves a ton of money.
Posted by LSUintheNW
At your mom’s house
Member since Aug 2009
35748 posts
Posted on 5/18/14 at 12:44 am to
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That crap is just so expensive.


I get half off at Mountain Hardwear and I appreciate it everyday. It has saved me a lot.

I've got the ghost whisperer down puffy and I love it. Weighs basically nothing. Not a true winter coat but can wear it over a fleece on the mountain and be warm. Or under my winter coat and be in very low temps.
This post was edited on 5/18/14 at 1:18 am
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