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Senators strike compromise to ban suspected terrorists from buying guns
Posted on 6/21/16 at 3:32 pm
Posted on 6/21/16 at 3:32 pm
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By: Rebecca Shabad; CBS News
June 21, 2016
WASHINGTON (CBS News) -- A group of nine senators on Tuesday unveiled a bipartisan compromise aimed at keeping guns out of terrorists' hands in the wake of the June 12 Orlando shooting.
The legislation spearheaded by Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, would prohibit people on the government's no-fly list and the government's selectee list used for extensive screening at airports from purchasing a gun.
The bill would allow U.S. citizens and green-card holders to appeal a decision blocking his or her purchase of a firearm, and if successful, to be awarded attorney's fees. It also contains a look-back provision so that if anyone has appeared in the government's broad terrorism database over the last five years, the FBI would be immediately notified if they attempt to buy a gun.
"Our goal is simple and straightforward: We want to make America safer," Collins said at a press conference unveiling the proposal, which she said "would help keep guns out of the hands of terrorists."
The total number of people on the watch lists under the legislation totals 109,000, Collins said, and most of them are foreign nationals. ...
WCTV (Florida CBS affiliate)
This post was edited on 6/21/16 at 3:40 pm
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Posted on 6/21/16 at 3:35 pm to chinese58
It's always nice to see people assumed to be guilty until proven innocent.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 3:38 pm to Jcorye1
Don't get on one of those list's then.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 3:40 pm to Jcorye1
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It's always nice to see people assumed to be guilty until proven innocent.
Yeah, there should probably be a court involvement for someone to be put on the list.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 3:42 pm to bababooey
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Don't get on one of those list's then.
Go buy a bunch of guns before you hit it!
Posted on 6/21/16 at 3:43 pm to bababooey
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Don't get on one of those list's then.
And there's no way they could ever make a mistake or put you on that list out of spite, right?
This post was edited on 6/21/16 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 6/21/16 at 3:47 pm to upgrayedd
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And there'e no way they could ever make a mistake or put you on that list out of spite, right?
Well, the compromise allows you to appeal the decision. It'll even pay your attorney fees if you win.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 3:49 pm to upgrayedd
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And there's no way they could ever make a mistake or put you on that list out of spite, right?
Are you saying that a government employee could frick up at his/her/its job or just be a generally shitty person? I don't believe it.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 3:49 pm to Bmath
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Well, the compromise allows you to appeal the decision.
You can do that under the current law.
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It'll even pay your attorney fees if you win
I believe this is the only change.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 3:50 pm to Bmath
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Well, the compromise allows you to appeal the decision. It'll even pay your attorney fees if you win.
Seems like common sense legislation. Good for them.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 3:50 pm to Bmath
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Well, the compromise allows you to appeal the decision. It'll even pay your attorney fees if you win.
Appeal literally any government decision and get back to me. I mean the government is very quick and easy to deal with.
I just think it's hilarious that people are that willing to concede the right of an American citizen to own a firearm without any sort of trial or proof of guilt.
This post was edited on 6/21/16 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 6/21/16 at 3:51 pm to shawnlsu
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Are you saying that a government employee could frick up at his/her/its job or just be a generally shitty person? I don't believe it.
I know. Hard to imagine, huh?
I mean, the Obama admin never did anything like use the IRS as a weapon against certain groups, right?
Posted on 6/21/16 at 3:52 pm to chinese58
The problem is that the list is completely arbitrary and you have no way of even knowing you're on it. And with anything government-related, expect it to take way too long to get yourself off of it, especially with the scary "terrorist" moniker.
It's like these people honestly think they can control straw purchases, which will be happening until the end of time. Can't buy a gun because you can't pass the check? Have a family member do it for you...
It's like these people honestly think they can control straw purchases, which will be happening until the end of time. Can't buy a gun because you can't pass the check? Have a family member do it for you...
Posted on 6/21/16 at 4:02 pm to Bmath
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Well, the compromise allows you to appeal the decision. It'll even pay your attorney fees if you win.
How long do you anticipate that to take? And how much taxpayer money is this just going to burn? Bureaucracy ain't cheap.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 4:07 pm to upgrayedd
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And there's no way they could ever make a mistake or put you on that list out of spite, right?
It's more likely that the same Judges/DA that are letting repeat offenders off without sexual registration will be able to control who ends up on this list too.
Have an issue with it? Take the federal government to court and pray you don't have to defend your family until it's settled.
Hope you baws all have the guns you need because we are probably all going on the list after these threads.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 4:35 pm to chinese58
This such bullshite. Taking away rights of Americans while giving illegals a free pass.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 4:39 pm to chinese58
Our government thinks everyone is a terrorist. Gonna be a lot of guns lost in boating accidents.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 5:18 pm to ZacAttack
What's to say that someone in the government t arbitrarily decides that the NRA is a terrorist organization? Obama has already pretty much called its members that. Or any other organization for that matter
Posted on 6/21/16 at 5:19 pm to chinese58
So let's just go ahead and deny, without due process first, all the other rights guaranteed under the Constitution and then make our citizens have to go to court to have them restored afterwards. Idiots and knee jerkers!
This post was edited on 6/21/16 at 5:24 pm
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