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re: Pistol question
Posted on 10/10/13 at 4:51 pm to Ace Midnight
Posted on 10/10/13 at 4:51 pm to Ace Midnight
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Without knowing ANYTHING about your background with firearms
An interesting point. I have no experience with hand guns but I spent 6 years in the army national guard so I am fairly comfortable with an M-16. However I don't think I am allowed to have one of those. I have never been hunting or target shooting. Other than my military time I am a complete novice.
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Posted on 10/10/13 at 5:51 pm to chryso
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That is disturbing but it is the only gun I have at the moment and I have a concealed carry class on Saturday.
Posted on 10/10/13 at 6:03 pm to Nodust
I am taking it because a relative got me in when somebody backed out because of the game on Saturday. Since I was offered the spot with all expenses paid I took it.
Posted on 10/10/13 at 6:59 pm to chryso
Ruger SR9
Posted on 10/10/13 at 7:02 pm to chryso
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An interesting point. I have no experience with hand guns but I spent 6 years in the army national guard so I am fairly comfortable with an M-16. However I don't think I am allowed to have one of those. I have never been hunting or target shooting. Other than my military time I am a complete novice.
You can buy an ar. When you do acquire a pistol dry fire it over and over as you were forced to do in the guard before you ever fire it and it will make you a MUCH better shot. Must you qualify with the pistol you plan to carry at the cc class or can you use different firearms? If you can use different weapons borrow a pistol for this weekend.
Posted on 10/10/13 at 8:13 pm to chryso
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That is disturbing but it is the only gun I have at the moment and I have a concealed carry class on Saturday.
1. I would be surprised in the instructor would allow that gun in his class. No offense, but I wouldn't let you bring it to one of my classes.
2. However, I would let you use one of my guns, in any of my classes, at no charge. People do this all the time -- maybe your instructor will do this. Who is the instructor ??
3. That gun was never designed to shoot ahigh volume of rounds. You presumably have no idea of how many rounds have already been fired through it. I would not shoot it (I place a lot of value on my fingers and eyes).
Posted on 10/10/13 at 8:14 pm to chryso
I like my SA XD 9mm with 3.8" barrel.
It's $519 at heberts.
It's $519 at heberts.
Posted on 10/10/13 at 8:16 pm to chryso
bump up budget to 500 and get smith and wessn m&p
Posted on 10/10/13 at 8:17 pm to bulldog95
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heberts
frick those motherfricking cocksuckers
Posted on 10/10/13 at 8:27 pm to KingRanch
I didn't get mine from there but I did notice the price on it last time I was in there.
Share why you don't like them I haven't heard the reason.
Share why you don't like them I haven't heard the reason.
Posted on 10/10/13 at 8:30 pm to bulldog95
They are the absolute worse about pushing their own agenda.....I won't even go into what QueenRanch thinks of that fricking shite hole.
Posted on 10/10/13 at 8:44 pm to KingRanch
Fair enough. 
Posted on 10/10/13 at 9:18 pm to Carson123987
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bump up budget to 500 and get smith and wessn m&p
^^^ This, or a Glock, or an HK.
9mm is a really good caliber with the new ammo that's available. The "good stuff" expands to .83 caliber out of my Glock 19 (and this gun holds 16 rounds).
You can't go wrong with any of these "top tier" guns. If the price tag is too steep, buy a used one. For self-defense, I'd swap 10 NIB Davis//Lorcin//Raven//et al for a used Glock 19
Posted on 10/10/13 at 9:25 pm to chryso
Glock 19. You can use it for home defense or carry.
If not that, get a Smith & Wesson M&P.
If not that, get a Smith & Wesson M&P.
Posted on 10/10/13 at 10:02 pm to chryso
There are several guns that hover around $400 that are good. Here is an ad for a sig 2022 which is one of the best options at $400.
LINK
If I were you, I would spend $475 and get a lightly used gen 3 Glock 19. It is not tiny, but concealeable and is more proven in combat than any other pistol, especially at that price point. Everyone will recommend something because they are a fan or their cousin has one and loves it, but Glock is what you turn to when you have to trust a pistol with your life.
LINK
If I were you, I would spend $475 and get a lightly used gen 3 Glock 19. It is not tiny, but concealeable and is more proven in combat than any other pistol, especially at that price point. Everyone will recommend something because they are a fan or their cousin has one and loves it, but Glock is what you turn to when you have to trust a pistol with your life.
Posted on 10/10/13 at 10:44 pm to olgoi khorkhoi
Your range has to be $500. Then hold a lot of guns.
Smith& Wesson makes a crappy one whose name I cannot recall. It is NOT the M&P. Guys help me. It is essentially a Taurus in quality.
Glock, Springfield, CZ (mine), Sig Sauer (P250 or P2022 are it for 500) are all fine.
Buddy swears by Glocks. He says the only way o frick em up is to clean them.
Smith& Wesson makes a crappy one whose name I cannot recall. It is NOT the M&P. Guys help me. It is essentially a Taurus in quality.
Glock, Springfield, CZ (mine), Sig Sauer (P250 or P2022 are it for 500) are all fine.
Buddy swears by Glocks. He says the only way o frick em up is to clean them.
Posted on 10/10/13 at 11:42 pm to LSU alum wannabe
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Smith& Wesson makes a crappy one whose name I cannot recall. It is NOT the M&P. Guys help me. It is essentially a Taurus in quality.
S&W Sigma. Now they have the improved "SD" which is the improved Sigma. It is a decent "budget" gun but still doesn't match the M&P in terms of quality, fit/finish, materials, and ergonomics. They charge less because it costs so much less to make.
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Your range has to be $500. Then hold a lot of guns.
+1. If you get a cheap gun, expect cheap performance. I think the best quality polymer gun at an affordable price is the Ruger SR9/SR40/SR45. Once you start getting between 300-400 for a new gun quality generally suffers.
And to echo Dawg, you should borrow a pistol from someone else or ask your instructor if you can use one of his handguns. Besides that gun being dangerous, generally 380s are hard to shoot. Borrow something full sized in 9, 40, or 45 for your class.
Posted on 10/11/13 at 6:35 am to Nodust
I have a S&W M&P wife has Glock 19. Like both but if you only could have one i would go with the glock.
Posted on 10/11/13 at 8:30 am to dawg23
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That gun was never designed to shoot ahigh volume of rounds. You presumably have no idea of how many rounds have already been fired through it. I would not shoot it (I place a lot of value on my fingers and eyes).
It was given to me new. It has had 20 rounds shot through it. Do you think it could take 15 more?
Posted on 10/11/13 at 8:42 am to chryso
You will shoot more than 15 rounds in a conceal carry class. .380 is also not acceptable as a defense round. Not enough penetration. The average is < 12inches of penetration which won't do. Don't use a shitty gun when training. Rent a gun if they offer that service or borrow one from someone. Do not use something that is notorious to frick up when training. Don't forget your talking about your life here. This is worth the money.
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