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re: Need a rec on a varmit rifle setup

Posted on 5/6/15 at 9:09 pm to
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6810 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 9:09 pm to
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What about a .22 Hornet?

The 22 Hornet can be a really good short-mid range varmint gun. The potential problems w/ the 22 H are:
1. Accuracy. Even in modern produced rifles, many Hornets lack varmint hunting type accuracy. Accuracy can sometimes be helped w/ careful handloading.
2. Ammo. Yeah, ammo availability is improving, but even during the good times, Hornet ammo is usually hard to find. Hornet brass is VERY hard to find at this time.

Since you already have one, buy (or load) some ammo and see how she shoots! Let us know how it turns out.
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6810 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 9:29 pm to
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the quieter the better

This is the main factor you'll need to address: how important is muzzle blast?

I'm going on a prairie dog hunt in a few weeks. I'v been loading and testing a lot for 223 Rem and 204 Ruger rifles as well as a 22-250 handgun. In a rifle, the muzzle blast of all will be significant: 22-250 (35 gr of powder)>204 R (29 gr of powder)>223 Rem (24 gr of powder). Any of those will easily take out a Nutria at 200 yards. Zero it for 100 yd and you'll be around 2" low at 200 yds. If you really need a more quiet round, I'd look seriously at the 17 HMR, or as someone mentioned above, the 17 WSM. The WSM will be a little flatter and more powerful than the HMR, if that's important. Yeah, the 17's are VERY subject to wind, but hopefully that won't be a big problem in swampy areas. Either the HMR or WSM will easily handle nutria. The problem w/ the WSM is ammo availability as it's more scarce than all the others. If you come across a 221 Rem Fireball or an accurate 22 Hornet, they'd be good also, but ammo for both is VERY hard to find, even for handloaders.

Keep us updated w/ your choice.

ETA: For a nice scope that won't cost a lot, look for a 3-9X scope from Redfield, Leupold Rifleman or Nikon ProStaff. If you get a rimfire, consider the 4-14X Mueller APV. [link=(www.natchezshooterssupply.com)]Natchez Shooters Supply[/link] usually has a good supply of factory refurbished Nikons that are deeply discounted.
This post was edited on 5/6/15 at 9:34 pm
Posted by Slickback
Deer Stand
Member since Mar 2008
27678 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 9:39 pm to
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Posted by Slickback
Deer Stand
Member since Mar 2008
27678 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 9:39 pm to
But really, I'd go 10/22 for nutria.
Posted by tigers84
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2008
2730 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 9:57 pm to
Savage .17 WSM / Scope Nikon Prostaff 2-7-32.
This post was edited on 5/6/15 at 10:01 pm
Posted by PrettyLights
Member since Oct 2014
1163 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 10:00 pm to
22-250 all day
Posted by A_bear
baton rouge
Member since Sep 2013
1960 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 11:44 pm to
Savage bmag 17wsm with a nikon prostaff 3-9x40. I got mine before they came out with the bull barrel but I'd rather the bull barrel. The ammo is becoming pretty easy to find, Walmart carries it. Nutria's, beavers, coons all die instantly, they hardly even kick. The gun has no recoil, pretty loud but not that bad. It will shoot 200 yards no problem. I like it better than the 22 I grew up shooting.
Posted by michael corleone
baton rouge
Member since Jun 2005
5805 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 6:24 am to
Got the 17 HMRSavage with bull barrel. Composite stock. Nikon prostaff. Thanks for all of the input.
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6810 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 8:29 am to
quote:

Got the 17 HMRSavage with bull barrel. Composite stock. Nikon prostaff. Thanks for all of the input.

Congrats!! You'll be pleased. I'd give a real good look at the Mueller APV scope. VERY highly respected on Rimfire Central Forums. I've bought 2 (one on a 17M2 just like your new HMR and one on my son's skinny barreled Savage 17 HMR) and been very pleased w/ both. Optics Planet had the best prices when I bought mine.
Posted by Tic44
Neville
Member since May 2015
1581 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 9:08 am to
17 WSM
Posted by TexasTiger34
Austin, Kind of
Member since Mar 2008
11338 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 10:49 am to
quote:

Got the 17 HMRSavage with bull barrel. Composite stock. Nikon prostaff. Thanks for all of the input.


congrat, you'll love it
hopefully you got the accutrigger too, if so, you'll love it even more
Posted by lazcreek
Galvez
Member since Feb 2004
1105 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 1:17 pm to
Have the same. Upgraded the stock with a Boyd's.
Then I bought the A17
LINK
Posted by Got Blaze
Youngsville
Member since Dec 2013
8708 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 3:48 pm to
17 Hornady Hornet is devastating on varmints , nutria, and pigs within your specified range. Factory ammo available or you can reload for optimum efficiency / accuracy

I purchased a 17 Ackley Hornet (pictured below) years ago and it's one of my favorite rifles. Super accurate and very flat. 12 grs of powder push a 20 gr vmax @ 3850 fps. Zero recoil and tolerable noise levels.



This post was edited on 5/7/15 at 3:53 pm
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34603 posts
Posted on 5/8/15 at 7:53 pm to
quote:

buy (or load) some ammo


I have a couple of boxes, just need to fire some off!

The rifle is a Savage Model 19.
Posted by 007mag
Death Valley, Sec. 408
Member since Dec 2011
3873 posts
Posted on 5/8/15 at 9:00 pm to
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Got the 17 HMRSavage with bull barrel. Composite stock. Nikon prostaff. Thanks for all of the input
Wise choice, we shoot eggs out to a little over 100yds with ours for target practice. My son has the Ruger pictured below with the heavy barrel and Luepold 4-12x scope. inside 70 yards from a solid rest a paint ball pellet on a golf tee doesn't stand a chance. We use FMJ's for squirrel hunting because the Vmax ammo is too devestating for small game you plan on eating. You'll enjoy your gun.


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