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re: My New Elk Rifle
Posted on 9/29/12 at 7:24 pm to bhtigerfan
Posted on 9/29/12 at 7:24 pm to bhtigerfan
quote:
Met a guy at the campground at the trailhead that killed a bull with a .270 WSM. Had to shoot it 4 times before it stayed down. So no.
where did he shoot it? did he just shoot it more times for it to drop so there would be no tracking?
depending on where you hit the bull, it could take any caliber 4 shots for it to drop.
This post was edited on 9/29/12 at 7:25 pm
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Posted on 9/29/12 at 7:45 pm to mark65mc
Judge to the face
Posted on 9/29/12 at 7:46 pm to Hermit Crab
Nah man. No elks were ever killed till the 300WSM was invented.
Crazy how a arrow will bring them down but not a .270.
Crazy how a arrow will bring them down but not a .270.
Posted on 9/29/12 at 7:48 pm to mark65mc
Mark,
Congratulations on having both good in laws and a very fine new gun. The 338 Win Mag is a fine elk gun. If I were going to get a rifle primarily for elk hunting it would more than likely be chambered in 338 WM. I hope you get to go on an elk hunt and have a good one. Let us know how it shoots.
Congratulations on having both good in laws and a very fine new gun. The 338 Win Mag is a fine elk gun. If I were going to get a rifle primarily for elk hunting it would more than likely be chambered in 338 WM. I hope you get to go on an elk hunt and have a good one. Let us know how it shoots.
Posted on 9/29/12 at 7:54 pm to TigerOnThe Hill
We are going to New Mexico at Thanksgiving. I can't wait. Although, that drive is going to be a bitch.
Posted on 9/30/12 at 10:58 pm to Hermit Crab
quote:As I recall, his first shot was behind the shoulder with the bull quartering away. It ran after the first shot and he shot it on the run and it fell, but immediatly got back up and started off again. Shot it twice more before it fell for good.
where did he shoot it? did he just shoot it more times for it to drop so there would be no tracking?
quote:There are too many variables. Caliber, bullet, and shot placement. You could kill a brown bear with a .270, but why would you want to shoot a large animal that most "experts" or guides would agree is too small. To prove a point?
depending on where you hit the bull, it could take any caliber 4 shots for it to drop.
Posted on 9/30/12 at 11:00 pm to Nodust
quote:I never said that.
Nah man. No elks were ever killed till the 300WSM was invented.
quote:Have you seen how much cutting area a broadhead has?
Crazy how a arrow will bring them down but not a .270.
Posted on 9/30/12 at 11:27 pm to TigerOnThe Hill
Like I said earlier, the 300WM outperforms the 338WM in every category except muzzle energy out to 300 yards, but after 300 yds. the 30 cal has more energy with a lighter bullet. The 338WM also has more bullet drop and more wind drift at all ranges.
.338WM 225 gr. Barnes TSX
.300WM 180 gr. Barnes TSX
.338WM 225 gr. Barnes TSX
.300WM 180 gr. Barnes TSX
Posted on 9/30/12 at 11:49 pm to bhtigerfan
quote:
338 is a great round, but doesn't shoot as flat or far as the others.
Depends on what grain bullet you are shooting.
I shoot a .338 win mag much of the time and it's pretty versatile. For Elk, a .300 wm is really all you need but nothing wrong with a .338 that throws larger, heavier shot at a target and has really good knock down power.
For shorter distances, the .338 is a superior round to the .300 wm IMO for larger game such as elk, moose or even smaller bear. The recoil isn't that bad and can be managed.
Posted on 10/1/12 at 1:12 am to bhtigerfan
quote:
.338WM 225 gr. Barnes TSX
.300WM 180 gr. Barnes TSX
The Barnes TSX and TTSX are amazing bullets. My dad brought some TTSX 180gr 300 WM reloads on his elk trip last November. He shot a mule deer with it and said "the bastard was dead before his arse hit the ground." The good thing about those bullets is that they are all copper, so the expansion is uniform and penetration is great, with little to no jacket separation, since it is all one piece. And, you get a lot more contact with the rifling since the bullet is longer due to copper being less dense than lead.
I know that's a lot of info at one time. But just look how intimidating these bastards are...
And here's a ballistic gel test with it, although in 7mm mag. If I were going on an elk hunt, this round would be all up in my shite. It's great for whitetail too, and you virtually always get an exit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gp8xJZO0c4
Posted on 10/1/12 at 1:24 am to bapple
Barnes TSX is what I shoot also. Hands down the best bullet on the market. 100% weight retention + consistent expansion = dead animals.
Posted on 10/1/12 at 7:43 am to mark65mc
very nice rifle. as previously asked want kind of glass do you have on there? and does your wife have a good looking sister? i could use a new gun too! 
Posted on 10/1/12 at 7:55 am to nhassl1
Lulz. You saw someone asked about his optic but didn't see he answered it already?
Nice rifle btw!!!
Nice rifle btw!!!
Posted on 10/1/12 at 8:21 am to Fap-n-Nap
This. Save $$, fast, flat shooting. Banged many an elk with my Ruger M77 .270.
Posted on 10/1/12 at 8:34 am to mark65mc
Good looking gun and love those muzzle brakes, have one on my 300 Win Mag
Posted on 10/1/12 at 8:44 am to bhtigerfan
Chuck Hawks tells it like it is...
Chuck Hawks: Elk Cartridges
quote:
Bullet placement is the most important factor in killing power. (Memorize that sentence!) I suspect that is why we hear such divergent views about many of the cartridges commonly used for elk hunting. The .270 Winchester would be a good example of this. Some hunters report that the .270 is a nearly ideal elk cartridge. Others consider it adequate, but not ideal. Still others consider the .270 worthless for elk hunting and recommend nothing less than a .300 Magnum as the absolute minimum elk cartridge.
The truth is that most hunters simply have not shot enough elk, or observed enough elk killed, to be able to draw valid conclusions from their personal experience. It is very instructive to hang around the check out station for a controlled hunt; I have done this. There you can benefit from the experiences of lots of successful (and some not so successful) hunters.
Based on a fair amount of research, I regard the .270 as an adequate elk cartridge. If a hunter puts a decent 140-150 grain .277" bullet into a vital spot, the result is a dead elk. However, the .270 will not bowl over even a relaxed elk. Neither, for that matter, will most other calibers. An elk is a big animal!
Chuck Hawks: Elk Cartridges
This post was edited on 10/1/12 at 8:46 am
Posted on 10/1/12 at 8:52 am to EMP40 LSU
I shot a elk last year with a .270 he ran about 20 yards. However my next purchase will be a 30-06.
Posted on 10/1/12 at 9:18 am to canyon
When you go goose hunting, do you shoot a .20 gauge?
I'll just leave this here.
I'll just leave this here.
quote:
First, let me state, "I hate tracking wounded game" and the sick feeling that you get deep down inside when you think you might lose a trophy that you thought enough of to shoot. Second, no gun or caliber can compensate for a poorly placed shot. Third, "I do not like shooting a gun with heavy recoil". Fourth, "No hunter should like to talk about the one that was hit but not recovered".
quote:
300 Winchester Magnum, 300 Weatherby Magnum and my favorite the 300 Winchester Short Magnum. I feel that anything smaller is just not quite enough and any thing larger is just too much. I have hunted with a lot of guides, outfitters and ranchers that felt the same way. Many of you will beg to differ with me or just flat out disagree and that is your right. The 300 WSM is my favorite because it is a short action generally in a rifle that is not as heavy and the recoil is manageable even off of a bench.
Posted on 10/1/12 at 9:21 am to bhtigerfan
Well, if you met a guy at the trail who said he had to shoot a bull 4 times, then there is no way a .270 would ever make a competent elk rifle. Oh, and 338 is too much.
Posted on 10/1/12 at 9:24 am to bhtigerfan
Where did your article come from?
What about a 7mm rem mag? Adequate elk round?
What about a 7mm rem mag? Adequate elk round?
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