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re: Louisiana's trespass laws lock anglers out of most coastal marshes
Posted on 8/8/14 at 10:08 pm to VanRIch
Posted on 8/8/14 at 10:08 pm to VanRIch
Why is it absurd? I've got a 780 AC lease that in 1991 had about 150 AC water, today it's about 520 water. That's just 20 some odd years and the older guys said in the 50s it was almost a solid stand of oaks and cypress. Now it's marsh grass.
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Posted on 8/8/14 at 10:08 pm to hardhead
So....
Where is this enforced at and where isn't it?
Where is this enforced at and where isn't it?
Posted on 8/8/14 at 10:15 pm to hardhead
Yes to confiscate the property they been forcing the landowner to pay taxes on while he or she watches it wash away. So the state takes over the newly acquired water bottoms, doesn't get mineral rights, and loses tax revenue. Who did you vote for that's going to push that bill?
Posted on 8/8/14 at 10:20 pm to Capt ST
From a little different perspective could it be viewed as an assumed risk when purchasing/leasing the land though? You were aware that at some point coastal erosion would become an issue. Similar to how land/homeowners in the river floodplains were up in arms a few years ago when their homes could've been flooded when the spillways were opened. Owning land in that area is an assumed risk.
Both sides seems to have logical bitches but currently the law is on the side of the land owners.
Both sides seems to have logical bitches but currently the law is on the side of the land owners.
Posted on 8/8/14 at 10:31 pm to YOURADHERE
The land/water owners are claiming liability as the heart of the issue in fear of suit over injury/death/etc.
this is complete bullshite. It is just a bad court decision
this is complete bullshite. It is just a bad court decision
Posted on 8/8/14 at 10:37 pm to Boats n Hose
The problem is that the "land owners" are still paying taxes on this land so if I was paying taxes on it you can bet your arse I wouldn't want it to be open for public acess unless y'all wanna help pay the taxes
Posted on 8/8/14 at 10:42 pm to CBDTigerFan
Airlines don't help pay our taxes when they fly over our houses
Posted on 8/9/14 at 2:41 am to Boats n Hose
You don't own the air, AT&T does
Posted on 8/9/14 at 5:46 am to Capt ST
Them fricking spooks will try to lock you out as soon as they get permission. You've got to pull the tidal waters card on them before they can guilt trip you into it. Yell loud enough and they'll swim for it, haha not that well, but they'll try. All of those damn jumpy kids like to trespass without permission, but they haven't ever been suicidal.
My dad has a neighborhood lake they own. It is tidal, so they let people fish in it. Rules are rules brah
My dad has a neighborhood lake they own. It is tidal, so they let people fish in it. Rules are rules brah
Posted on 8/9/14 at 6:15 am to Boats n Hose
quote:
Louisiana's trespass laws lock anglers out of most coastal marshes
This is nothing new.
Posted on 8/9/14 at 6:56 am to Capt ST
ST.....GH says hi.....LOL Your support is appreciated
Tight lines
And yes I'm old
Tight lines
And yes I'm old
Posted on 8/9/14 at 7:08 am to BooDreaux
Posted on 8/9/14 at 7:23 am to CBDTigerFan
quote:
The problem is that the "land owners" are still paying taxes on this land so if I was paying taxes on it you can bet your arse I wouldn't want it to be open for public acess unless y'all wanna help pay the taxes
They are paying the taxes to keep the mineral rights and to be able to build camps or duck blinds. In many cases they are getting theses taxes back and then some by leasing to duck hunters and crabbers.
Allowing recreational access to tidal waters like is done in 49 other states won't change anything.
Except....by making it all "private" it becomes a more attractive lease and as is the case for all real estate, location is everything.
Posted on 8/9/14 at 7:41 am to Fifthstring
Buncha Democrats up in here...wanting the Gubmint to tell a man what he can or can't do with his property.
DAs can't enforce this. How they gonna prove you were on property that wasn't navigable is 1812?
DAs can't enforce this. How they gonna prove you were on property that wasn't navigable is 1812?
Posted on 8/9/14 at 7:42 am to Mung
No one will enforce this unless its duck season.
Posted on 8/9/14 at 8:43 am to KingRanch
Heck we have been kept off of beach rebuilt with public money for years now...
All because someeople acts like asses
All because someeople acts like asses
Posted on 8/9/14 at 8:48 am to choupiquesushi
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Heck we have been kept off of beach rebuilt with public money for years now... All because someeople acts like asses
I know what you mean. Pisses me off I can't on fourchon beach because white trash people can't seem to put their garbage in the fricking dumpsters provided at the parking lot
Posted on 8/9/14 at 9:04 am to Fifthstring
quote:If you did, you would not be saying "water rights". That is not in play here. When someone downstream loses their water supply, you should participate in the discussion. As for this issue, you are very confused. It's all been laid out for you at least twice. The issue is only complicated when dealing with outer marsh. Anything else and it's about as easy as legal issues get. Again, stop saying water rights.
I understand it 100% so do you
Posted on 8/9/14 at 9:30 am to Capt ST
ST it still boils my blood some of my most enjoyable trips were at that beach...
Posted on 8/9/14 at 9:42 am to AlxTgr
We differ on this obviously.
It gets confusing south of Hwy 90 and we can all agree there.
The issue at hand is if tidal marshes can be considered land or water and thus what rights to traverse are in place. Most know Louisiana Legislature's stance in term of 1812 navigability. Most reasonable people with no dog in the fight would agree what was done in 1992 and then in the 1995 Tidewater case goes against how the other 49 states handle it.
Lots of people are calling out the ludicrous of it all not just us in the OB, it clear there are motives.
It gets confusing south of Hwy 90 and we can all agree there.
The issue at hand is if tidal marshes can be considered land or water and thus what rights to traverse are in place. Most know Louisiana Legislature's stance in term of 1812 navigability. Most reasonable people with no dog in the fight would agree what was done in 1992 and then in the 1995 Tidewater case goes against how the other 49 states handle it.
Lots of people are calling out the ludicrous of it all not just us in the OB, it clear there are motives.
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