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Posted on 7/6/16 at 10:20 am to Shexter
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Until you get a double feed on that Glock 42 or 43 - very common on those pistols due to limp wristing. Limp wristing is very common with women shooters.
How about he or someone just teached his wife the correct way to shoot therefore that isn't an issue.
It is silly to choose an inferior weapon due to bad shooting technique instead of learning proper shooting technique and choosing the better weapon.
It literally takes one trip to the range to correct limp wristing.
This post was edited on 7/6/16 at 10:22 am
Posted on 7/6/16 at 10:30 am to civiltiger07
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I have a S&W Airweight .38
me too. wife loves it!
Posted on 7/6/16 at 11:07 am to GeauxxxTigers23
Have her take a look at single stack .380, has better ballistics than .38 special. More rounds in the mag also.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 11:22 am to LSUwag
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A revolver is the safest and easiest pistol to operate under duress.
I personally think they are the perfect gun for personal protection.
Lots on here will disagree and suggest semi automatics. I agree they are great guns but, can a novice shooter operate one while under stress. Probably not.
^^^this is the correct answer. for a novice or near novice, the simpler the better. A Ruger LCR with wadcutter rounds would do anyone just fine
Posted on 7/6/16 at 11:29 am to nvcowboyfan
How about have her shoot both. A full size 9mm and a 38 airweight and let her make her own mind. I will be very surprised if she chooses the airweight but let her make that decision
Posted on 7/6/16 at 11:30 am to Fat Bastard
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I have a S&W Airweight .38
Another happy owner here. Forget +p and reduced recoil rounds help. This gun goes everywhere with me (and I own a bunch). It's easy to slip in my front pocket in jeans, shorts, whatever.
It took a lot of practice, but I'm good to about 10 feet with it.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:24 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
No. 12 lb trigger pull. Period.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:32 pm to SaintInBham
I have one that I qualify with for my retired Leo permit at 25 yards. Regularly score 116 out of 120 with it. But that just me. Shoot what you like. I also shoot my .40 Glock the same.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:37 pm to LSUwag
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I agree they are great guns but, can a novice shooter operate one while under stress. Probably not.
What's the difference? They are both point and shoot. You get more than twice the capacity out of a subcompact semi-auto and it's a lot cheaper to shoot and practice with.
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can a novice shooter operate one while under stress
No, but what does that have to do with the platform? That has more to do with them being a novice shooter.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:39 pm to Fat Bastard
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me too. wife loves it!
That's odd. Those airweight revolvers are a real pain in the arse to shoot.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:47 pm to theenemy
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How about he or someone just teached his wife the correct way to shoot therefore that isn't an issue. It is silly to choose an inferior weapon due to bad shooting technique instead of learning proper shooting technique and choosing the better weapon. It literally takes one trip to the range to correct limp wristing
This. I will never understand it, but many on here seem to think that women are incapable of learning a platform just as fast a man is. If your wife or you for that matter, will be carrying a weapon that you may have to use to defend your life, you owe it to yourself and the people around you to become extremely proficient with your weapon and get proper and adequate training as well as making shooting a part of your life. You should shoot at least a couple times a month.
"Well we just don't have the time for that."
Well, you shouldn't be conceal carrying then. Your wife shouldn't be either if your excuse for her to carry a snub nose airweight revolver is because "theyre easier to operate" or she "may limp wrist it". That's pretty irresponsible on your part to not have experience with a weapon you actually intend to carry that can inflict deadly force if needed. It's scary to think that someone's wife will get a gun, put one magazine through it and then proceed to carry it with the intention of using it as self defense.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:15 pm to dnm3305
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It's scary to think that someone's wife will get a gun, put one magazine through it and then proceed to carry it with the intention of using it as self defense.
But that's what usually happens.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:30 pm to dat yat
quote:^^ Which also means she'll probably never get very proficient with one.
Light snubbies are good for concealing and bad for enjoyable shooting.
quote:Recoil in a small (airweight) .38 revolver will be "about like" a tiny 9mm.
I've never shot a .38 so I don't know what the recoil on it is.
I'd worry more about the trigger pull weight on a small conventional S&W revolver. They are very reliable, but most women have a really hard time dealing with the trigger.
The little Rugers seem to have lighter triggers, as do the Bodyguard revolvers. But all are gonna suck compared to a Kahr or Glock trigger (so marksmanship will usually suffer as well).
I teach ~ two dozen women a year how to shoot (private lessons that last ~ 3.5 hours). About 1/3 of the time they want to bring a small airweight revolver -- usually picked by their husband (but sometimes the wife). Most of these women have never shot a handgun (some have shot a little) and most start out scared of pistols.
The lessons are always conducted with a Glock 19 -- starting with .22 LR ammo (in an AACK), and ending with 9mm FMJ. THEN, after we're finished with the lesson, I ask them to load up their revolver. The difference is night & day, and gives them a personal, hands-on comparison. EVERY single one of them complains about the revolver's trigger and every single one says they are headed home to tell hubby to get them a semiauto.
2" groups are the norm for these women shooting the G19 (I guarantee 3" groups or the lesson is free). Their groups with the J-frame revolvers are usually anywhere from 10" to 18" -- and after 10-15 rounds they usually say their hands are sore from the revolver's recoil.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 2:01 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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Bapple will save your soul on this one.
This is like my bat signal. quote:
Yeah I know he's got some long post that he's bookmarked for threads like this.
You pretty much covered it in your response so you know what you're dealing with. Here's what I'll say to keep it relatively short.
Before she gets a concealed gun, she needs to become proficient on a full sized one. I never suggest to anyone to get a concealed gun first. Always seek proficiency on a gun that is easier to shoot before getting something smaller for comfort.
My girlfriend purchased her first handgun a few weeks ago - HK VP9. She absolutely loves it. She was getting hit by cases at first so we had to work on her wrist tension and her shooting form. By the second range trip there was a drastic improvement. We got to the point where when a case would fling on her, she knew it was her fault for leaving her wrist loose and she could tell it was her form. Slowly but surely her groups started to tighten up and she was changing mags and working the slide like a champ. This is after only two trips to the range.
If you don't think you're capable of bringing your wife to the range to learn on a semi auto because you "don't have the time" you are doing yourself a big disservice.
Would you personally feel adequately armed with a tiny 5-shot 38? I know I wouldn't unless circumstances left me no alternative. So why would I try to limit someone else to that tiny gun, even moreso when that person is an inexperienced shooter?
If you have any specific questions feel free to email me. But I'm in agreement with the others - full sized or mid sized 9mm.
Bigapple828@aim dot com
This post was edited on 7/6/16 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 7/6/16 at 2:12 pm to bapple
Bap - true story - we're headed through the capital of our great state this weekend. Mrs. Midnight (famously armed primarily with a 2 5/8" bbl, 8-shot 627 - we were early adopters - unofficial nickname, "Fire breathing dragon") turns to me last night and says, "I may have to take one of your automatics for faster reloading."
Posted on 7/6/16 at 2:49 pm to Ace Midnight
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Ace Midnight
The revelation that most revolver shooters have...
Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:03 pm to LSUwag
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A revolver is the safest and easiest pistol to operate under duress.
At one time I would agree...especially for a novice female... however with a striker fired 9MM I'm not so sure. As has been stated numerous ties here...let her decide what she likes.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 9:49 am to LSU Tiger Bob
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At one time I would agree...especially for a novice female... however with a striker fired 9MM I'm not so sure. As has been stated numerous ties here...let her decide what she likes.
mine always shoots my G22. Hasn't shot my G21 yet. My wife also shoots my S&W .44 magnum yet she loves her S&W airweight 38 special. I'm not a big fan of 9mm but please continue. You think I should get her a G17? My concern is her forgetting to pull slide or GOD forbid gun jamming under duress.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 10:49 am to bapple
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My girlfriend purchased her first handgun a few weeks ago - HK VP9.
Have you shot the HK VP40?
I see it is a beefer gun. I wonder what the recoil feels like. I bet the recoil probably feels like a 9+p round which would not be bad at all.
HK VP9= 25.56 oz
HK VP40= 28.93 oz
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