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re: Gating canals in houma area

Posted on 2/18/16 at 6:19 pm to
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
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Posted on 2/18/16 at 6:19 pm to
What's the difference?
Posted by PapaPogey
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
39545 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 6:22 pm to
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Not sure where that's at.


good, let's keep it that way
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 6:24 pm to
I think we fish the same general area, but we fish east (Barre, Tambour, etc). Y'all have crazy MFers that shoot at kayakers fishing duck ponds on your side.
Posted by CP3
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
7416 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 6:29 pm to
I'm just kidding. We have a gate so it's not like you could get on our lease anyway
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 6:30 pm to
I know.

You didn't seem that crazy.
Posted by PapaPogey
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
39545 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 6:40 pm to
It's been years since I've seen a kayak where I fish.


Eta: "your side" I don't associate with those frickbois in Dularge FWIW.
This post was edited on 2/18/16 at 6:42 pm
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 2/18/16 at 6:42 pm to
We got mothershipped out into the marsh sometime in the fall, and it was pretty funny watching people do a double take.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 6:43 pm to
You out of Dulac?

Found a new kayak spot over that way and can't tell if it's private or not. Guess I'll find out eventually.
This post was edited on 2/18/16 at 6:46 pm
Posted by PapaPogey
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
39545 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 6:52 pm to
Yes, Southern Comfort. Where at? Fish it regardless IMO
Posted by Capt ST
Hotel California
Member since Aug 2011
12875 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 7:14 pm to
That bourg property is stacked with reds. Just run north of sister lake and you'll hit the canal network.
Posted by Whatafrekinchessiebr
somewhere down river
Member since Nov 2013
1583 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:03 pm to
quote:

the property I legally own


quote:

it's not like you could get on our lease anyway


Do you own the land you gated or did you put up a gate on leased land? I only ask because it seems like own and leased are being used interchangeably throughout this thread and I feel like they are two totaly different things. Just because I lease land from delacroixe corp it does not give me the right to set up gates and run people out who are fishing on the lease.

Edited to add:
I understand some leases allow the leasee to make improvements, but they really don't have much legal claim to the land. I would think most leases can be pulled/broken with the quickness based on the whims of the true landowner. It happens all the time.
This post was edited on 2/18/16 at 9:28 pm
Posted by Mung
NorCal
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 2/18/16 at 10:31 pm to
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I've missed signs far more times than I have willfully ignored signs


I've never paddled past a sign. but there don't really need to be signs for it to be a trespass. if none, that's where the officer discretion comes in. those guys do not want to give you a ticket, but if you're being an a-hole obviously trespassing on posted property, they will.
Posted by Capt ST
Hotel California
Member since Aug 2011
12875 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 5:06 am to
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Just because I lease land from delacroixe corp it does not give me the right to set up gates and run people out who are fishing on the lease.


Do you not put up gates on your deer lease? And speaking of Delacroix Corp, I was out there this year and it appears they aren't maintaining their shoreline according to the law. Perhaps when the state starts cracking down on them for not doing their shoreline maintenance they will begin to limit access.
Posted by Dock Holiday
Member since Sep 2015
1641 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 6:47 am to
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they aren't maintaining their shoreline according to the law


Any chance you can provide a link or official citation of this statewide law?
Posted by MrBobDobalina
BRo.LA
Member since Oct 2011
2995 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 7:39 am to
Damn baw, we're neighbors
Posted by swampdawg
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2007
5141 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 8:01 am to
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I was out there this year and it appears they aren't maintaining their shoreline according to the law.


What does this mean? I am not sure what the law says about maintaining shorelines (lakes, bayous, or canals?).
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81738 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 8:25 am to
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You should buy Alx a Bud Ice. I think that's what people from Alexandria drink, and Alx could reminisce on intimate times with certain other Alexandria residents/family members.
Oh, and frick you for this part.
Posted by Dock Holiday
Member since Sep 2015
1641 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 8:40 am to
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What does this mean? I am not sure what the law says about maintaining shorelines (lakes, bayous, or canals?).


My question as well and I'm not sure said requirement exists universally.
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 9:18 am to
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I've never paddled past a sign. but there don't really need to be signs for it to be a trespass. if none, that's where the officer discretion comes in. those guys do not want to give you a ticket, but if you're being an a-hole obviously trespassing on posted property, they will.


I agree with you but the point I'm trying to make is, officer discretion aside, there is no difference. Trespassing is trespassing, the law doesn't make a distinction between accidental and intentional. There isn't a level of trespassing you must meet to get a ticket.

The problem at it's core is the ability to protect yourself from accidentally becoming a criminal. The nice guy who gave me written permission a few years ago could have pressed charges just as easily. I had zero reason to believe the area I was in was private. Hundreds of hours of research and never once did I find any evidence of it being private property, it turned out to be but if I couldn't find out how is someone with less resources supposed to know? So where does that leave us? What about my children?

Let's look at all of Lafourche parish. We have PAC that is about 30k acres, a lot of which is in Terrebonne parish. We have Forenation islands. Some public land north of HWY 1 up to around the Southwestern canal. That's it as far as shallow water fishing goes. You can sink shite in deep canals for trout or reds but if you want to sight cast shallow water, that's all you got.

If we go a little further west, we have Terrebonne parish. That has a little sliver of state land that's about 1,500 acres and that's it outside of what little PAC crosses the parish line. That's all for Terrebonne. The whole parish which is home to roughly half a MILLION acres of marsh.

St Bernard Parish has Biloxi WMA, and nothing else. You could pole banks of a few lakes or canals but you can not enter the marsh. Delacroix is a fricking mess. They have lost tens of thousands of acres of land, all of it private, all of the restoration being funded by the public. Most of it because of the land corps exploration and transportation canals, which they profited from the destruction.

This is just the tip of the ice berg.
Posted by TGFN57
Telluride
Member since Jan 2010
6975 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 9:30 am to
Yeah, sure pal. You tell that to the judge when you're up for manslaughter. That argument should go REALLY far. LMAO
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