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Posted on 2/18/16 at 11:19 am to AlxTgr
People put up signs that do not own the canal. I would like some kind of ordnance number like the wake zones have.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 11:19 am to Barf
How ya know signs are legit?
Posted on 2/18/16 at 11:20 am to AlxTgr
quote:
Willingly ignoring signs makes one a worthless pile of shite. Unknowingly just makes one ignorant of his surroundings.
Don't be silly. You know what wasn't the question.
If the punishment is the same, what's the motivation to make an effort to stay in public water?
Posted on 2/18/16 at 11:22 am to Barf
quote:I thought it was because you do not seem to know the difference between right and wrong.
Don't be silly. You know what wasn't the question.
quote:I doubt it would be. Each judge is different, but I believe the two people would be treated differently.
If the punishment is the same
quote:To be a decent human being?
what's the motivation to make an effort to stay in public water?
Posted on 2/18/16 at 11:23 am to cajunboatman
You don't.... People take advantage of our crazy laws
Posted on 2/18/16 at 11:26 am to AlxTgr
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I thought it was because you do not seem to know the difference between right and wrong.
Why are you such a silly bitch all the time? I don't get why you can't just be straight forward. I might be an a-hole, but at least I am consistent.
quote:
I doubt it would be. Each judge is different, but I believe the two people would be treated differently
I guess I have to simplify the question. When you are issued a criminal trespass citation for unknowingly trespassing, would that citation be different than one you get for willingly trespassing? If so, how do you make the distinction between the two?
quote:
To be a decent human being?
Says the scumbag lawyer...
Posted on 2/18/16 at 11:32 am to Barf
I can't believe you're in here bitching and not trespassing on someone's property today.
Our property is clearly posted. Not sure how "Posted, No trespassing, Louisiana Land & exploration, Houma, la" can be misconstrued.
Our property is clearly posted. Not sure how "Posted, No trespassing, Louisiana Land & exploration, Houma, la" can be misconstrued.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 11:37 am to Barf
quote:Why are you asking this? That was very straight forward.
Why are you such a silly bitch all the time?
quote:I doubt it, but then you get into officer discretion. I could see a warning given to one, and not the other.
When you are issued a criminal trespass citation for unknowingly trespassing, would that citation be different than one you get for willingly trespassing?
quote:No, I'm not that kind.
Says the scumbag lawyer...
Posted on 2/18/16 at 11:43 am to Capt ST
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Not sure how "Posted, No trespassing, Louisiana Land & exploration, Houma, la" can be misconstrued.
It's not, I just don't give a shite and my pockets are deep enough to fight the case.
That may or may not be in jest, so don't take it too seriously. Your panties don't need to be bunched.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 11:48 am to Barf
Oh if you're rich then carry on.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 11:48 am to AlxTgr
quote:
Why are you asking this? That was very straight forward.
I think you're a pretty entertaining dude, but I'm not going to let that get in the way of talking a little shite.
quote:
I could see a warning given to one, and not the other.
Sure, but how would the officer know? I've missed signs far more times than I have willfully ignored signs. Some signs are more obvious than others. I just don't see how an officer would be willing to draw that conclusion on the spot.
quote:
No, I'm not that kind.
Fair enough.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 12:13 pm to Capt ST
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Oh if you're rich then carry on.
I just don't understand what you expect. There are no maps to help people to not trespass. Land owners sure as shite aren't going to give maps. The signs are more or less meaningless because it's impossible to post every entrance to every private duck pond off of every state claimed waterway. Not to mention the landscape has changed so much that you can be in a wide open state claimed water body and drift a few feet to either side and be trespassing. I don't understand WTF you want from people. It is impossible.
The only way to not trespass is to never leave main navigational canals/bayous, or never leave your lease. This is also ignoring the fact that some boat ramps launch directly into private water.
Am I supposed to just sell my skiff and start fishing deeper water? Every single one of the people in this thread has trespassed at some point. Doesn't matter if you meant to do it or not, the law itself makes no distinction between the two.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 12:34 pm to Barf
I've followed this thread from the beginning, and for awhile, there was telling conversation. This issue has two very distinct sides. The simple fact of the matter is that, as is the case with pretty much everything else in life, there is going to have to be compromise from both of those sides to gain any headway. This is a very real problem with very real effects for a lot of people. I don't particularly like the idea that 40 years from now, 90% of the area I fish could be gated. I also understand the plight of the landowner, and it's an unfortunate situation to be in. That being said, people find themselves in unfortunate legal situations over which they have zero control all the time. This issue is the type of legal issue that directly affects every single one of us that enjoys being in the marsh.
The idea of the Louisiana marsh being like the Everglades is both awesome and ridiculous. That'll never happen.
Major thread player comments:
Alx - solid, accurate points about the law. You should buy Barf a Peroni. He's a rich a-hole that probably likes the crisp Tuscan taste of Italian brews.
Barf - solid points about the glaring inconsistencies and the rampant burial of heads in marsh mud. You should buy Alx a Bud Ice. I think that's what people from Alexandria drink, and Alx could reminisce on intimate times with certain other Alexandria residents/family members.
ST - It's really narrow minded to say "this is the problem" or "that is the problem." There are dozens of problems here, all of which contribute to the much larger issue. Your generalizations are dumb. You sound like you're zero fun to be around/totally incapable of carrying on intelligent conversation. You should repeatedly take shots of Jack Daniels at the same bar where Alx and Barf are drinking their beers and shout generalizations in an increasingly obnoxious way. I think Alx and Barf will eventually come together and pour their beers on your head. There's nothing quite like the combination of a crisp Tuscan lager and the incestual flow of Bud Ice to bring people with differing viewpoints together.
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TL;DR: good points Alx and Barf. ST, meh.
The idea of the Louisiana marsh being like the Everglades is both awesome and ridiculous. That'll never happen.
Major thread player comments:
Alx - solid, accurate points about the law. You should buy Barf a Peroni. He's a rich a-hole that probably likes the crisp Tuscan taste of Italian brews.
Barf - solid points about the glaring inconsistencies and the rampant burial of heads in marsh mud. You should buy Alx a Bud Ice. I think that's what people from Alexandria drink, and Alx could reminisce on intimate times with certain other Alexandria residents/family members.
ST - It's really narrow minded to say "this is the problem" or "that is the problem." There are dozens of problems here, all of which contribute to the much larger issue. Your generalizations are dumb. You sound like you're zero fun to be around/totally incapable of carrying on intelligent conversation. You should repeatedly take shots of Jack Daniels at the same bar where Alx and Barf are drinking their beers and shout generalizations in an increasingly obnoxious way. I think Alx and Barf will eventually come together and pour their beers on your head. There's nothing quite like the combination of a crisp Tuscan lager and the incestual flow of Bud Ice to bring people with differing viewpoints together.
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TL;DR: good points Alx and Barf. ST, meh.
This post was edited on 2/18/16 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 2/18/16 at 12:36 pm to bluemoons
That about wraps this thread up.Posted on 2/18/16 at 12:40 pm to bluemoons
1 miiiiiiilllllloooon up votes for da bluemoon!!!
Best post in this thread and that's sayin alot because it's closing in on 600 posts I believe
Best post in this thread and that's sayin alot because it's closing in on 600 posts I believe
This post was edited on 2/18/16 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 2/18/16 at 12:53 pm to Capt ST
quote:
"Posted, No trespassing, Louisiana Land & exploration, Houma, la"
you own the company?
Posted on 2/18/16 at 12:57 pm to bluemoons
Well seeing as I'm the only one of the 3 with skin in this game you can piss off. I could write a novel about the things I've seen trespassers do in the marsh. Boats stuck, running into shite, breaching levees, accidental shooting deaths, burning marsh to rabbit hunt and even cutting trees down to create more sac a lait holes on our property.
I'll be in the corner, drinking Colorado cool aid and talking about scummy lawyers and bass-holes.
I'll be in the corner, drinking Colorado cool aid and talking about scummy lawyers and bass-holes.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 1:10 pm to Barf
quote:
It's not, I just don't give a shite and my pockets are deep enough to fight the case.
Careful what you say, you may run into someone with deeper pockets with the same attitude to fight you.
Landowners in our area are getting together and paying for a patrol service to put pressure on the poaching/trespassing problem. This is something that could be done in the marsh as well if the landowners there got together and worked as a collective.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 1:11 pm to maisweh
quote:
"Posted, No trespassing, Louisiana Land & exploration, Houma, la"
you own the company?
Also curious
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