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Experience with Gas Lines Running Through Property

Posted on 3/16/16 at 8:28 am
Posted by eyepooted
Member since Jul 2010
5717 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 8:28 am
Interested to know if anyone has purchased a piece of property(with the intentions of building a home) with a gas line on it and what have been the negative effects?
Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
12737 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 8:41 am to
I wouldn't think it would be that hard for a contractor to move the line out of the way of construction. Especially if you're going to have gas appliances, you'd have to modify the existing line to tap into it anyway.
Posted by undrafted
DHA
Member since Oct 2009
1000 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 8:43 am to
Are you talking about a pipeline?
Posted by JamalSanders
On a boat
Member since Jul 2015
12135 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 8:47 am to
Depending on the size of the pipe, they can be very difficult and costly to move. Also you cannot build anything with a foundation over them. Driveways and paved areas are good but no house.
Posted by Dock Holiday
Member since Sep 2015
1635 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 8:51 am to
If he is talking about a main natural gas trunk line that supplies a region or neighborhood, moving it will not happen, at least not without a VERY GOOD reason or lots of money.

Posted by eyepooted
Member since Jul 2010
5717 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 8:56 am to
quote:

Are you talking about a pipeline



Yes. It's owner by Targa I believe
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
13880 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 8:59 am to
Find the right of way document at the courthouse and see what you're dealing with. Could be very restrictive as to activities inside the R/W.
Posted by JoePepitone
Waffle House #1494
Member since Feb 2014
10570 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 9:01 am to
You need to do some research regarding the age of the pipeline. That should give you an idea of the time when the easement was granted and who the landowner was at that time. Secure a copy of the easement agreement and determine what rights are afforded to you and those afforded to the pipeline operator.
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
38734 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 9:05 am to
quote:

Experience with Gas Lines Running Through Property


Assuming you mean a pipeline, I have multiple hours of experience overlooking them from a box stand.

quote:

purchased a piece of property(with the intentions of building a home) with a gas line on it


You can't build anything permanent on them, and the company always has access to them.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45804 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 9:07 am to
How large is the piece of property? Would the home be 50' from the pipeline or hundreds of yards?
Posted by eyepooted
Member since Jul 2010
5717 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 9:08 am to
24 acres. Pipeline is near the back of the property.
Posted by Goatofgoats
Sout Loosyanna
Member since Feb 2016
224 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 9:11 am to
Will you get an annuity because of it?

24 acres? If you weren't planning on building something where the pipeline is, I'd buy if the price is right.
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15097 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 9:13 am to
My parents own a home with a gas pipe line running along the back side of the one acre lot. No problems in the 47 years they have lived there. An airplane flies over real low about once a month looking from leaks/problems. About every 3-5 years a tree trimming crew comes by and clears any trees that need trimming along the easement. The lot is walking distance to MS State campus. I can listen to the football stadium play by play announcer sitting on their back porch and the band playing.
Posted by Dock Holiday
Member since Sep 2015
1635 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 9:18 am to
Ask the seller to give you a copy of the most recent agreement with Targa. Then call Targa to see if they would be willing to provide the same document to you as a prospective buyer, that way you can cross reference. It's likely that Targa will not provide it to you, but it's worth a try. I would not buy it until someone produces the current agreement for my review.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134860 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 9:28 am to
If you do buy, make sure the ROW is completely accessible. If there's an issue, or for annual maintenance, they'll make sure they have access and you probably won't like it.


I used to cut pipeline ROW as a summer job and some people would put up rows and rows of fence perpendicular to the ROW to piss off the pipeline company. Doesn't turn out well for them.
Posted by King of the Sabine
Member since Jan 2016
149 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 9:30 am to
They will have right of way contract that will cover a certain amount of feet on each side of center line. Targa has right of way directors that control those agreements and are very helpful will come out and mark it all up for you. As long as you do not build a permanent foundation within that boundry you are fine. You will also have to possibly work out access for them if necessary.
Posted by JoePepitone
Waffle House #1494
Member since Feb 2014
10570 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 9:32 am to
Which state is this tract of land located in. Older easement agreements often didn't specify a R-O-W width. Different jurisdictions vary on how they view how much ground is covered in these non-specific agreements. The general rule of thumb is the pipeline operator has an iron grip on whatever ground they keep cleared and maintained.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 9:41 am to
Well, you definitely won't be building on or near it
Posted by rodnreel
South La.
Member since Apr 2011
1317 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 9:44 am to
With my business I deal with pipelines everyday. A little info for you to know. Prior to the line being constructed an agreement should have been signed and recorded between the pipeline operator and the property owner. This agreement will state the operators rights including the right of way width although prior to the 60's often the width was not stated. Often the agreement allows the operator to access not only their right of way but existing driveways or private roads.

A one time fee was usually paid to the property owner, based upon the number of rods (16.5 feet) that it crossed.
Most agreements will include a plat which should show the property and width of the right of way.

There are certain things the property owner can't do on the right of way, while other things are permitted. I would discuss this with the operator because each is different.

Keep in mind pipeline operators can change names or be sold so the recorded agreement may not reflect the current operators name.

On a 24 acre tract with a pipeline in the rear, the impacted value will be minimal.
This post was edited on 3/16/16 at 9:50 am
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
13880 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 9:54 am to
It's my understanding that on undefined width R/W's basically they have the width they've maintained.
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