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DeWalt Hammer Drills

Posted on 9/25/13 at 11:52 am
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22159 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 11:52 am
I am just starting to buy tools and was wondering which would be a more preferable drill. This would just be around the house. I do plan on taking on some masonry projects and woodworking.

The 20v Max Premium Hammer Drill Dewalt xrp



or

20v Max Brushless Hammer Drill
Dewalt XR


Both are 299 at Home Depot. The Brushless is compact and 1.6 lbs lighter, brushless (better technology) with a battery gauge and better light. The heavier one has all metal tranny with 3 speed and separate settings for torque and drill settings but has bad light and no battery guage.
Posted by Interweb Cowboy
NW Bama
Member since Dec 2010
3137 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 11:55 am to
I have the brushless one and it's bad arse.
Posted by PapaPogey
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
39422 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 11:56 am to
If it's for around the house, go #2 with an impact. Lighter and more compact will be advantageous to you especially in more at home projects.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 11:58 am to
Dad has the first

Nice tool
Posted by JAB528
The Mexican Ocean
Member since Jun 2012
16870 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 12:04 pm to
We have #1 at the shop and it's bad to the bone.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16539 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 12:07 pm to
Go with the first one. Brushless means almost nothing for the usual DIY'er and that hammer function works great on masonry and concrete for setting anchors. I own the first one as part of a 5 tool kit and you'll never worry about the weight of it.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Member since Feb 2011
57002 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 12:08 pm to
Buy a combo pack(Makita, Milwaukee, DeWalt) with an 1/4 impact driver and compact drill driver(shorter length comes in handy) LiIon. Buy a cheap skil electric hammer drill, you wont use it very much, if its just around the house
This post was edited on 9/25/13 at 12:10 pm
Posted by skidry
Member since Jul 2009
3253 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 12:10 pm to
I've got the heavier one and am having problems with the 3speed. Sometimes she just won't turn at all. Hafta keep playing with the speed switch.
This post was edited on 9/25/13 at 12:10 pm
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22159 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 12:18 pm to
quote:

Buy a combo pack(Makita, Milwaukee, DeWalt) with an 1/4 impact driver and compact drill driver(shorter length comes in handy) LiIon. Buy a cheap skil electric hammer drill, you wont use it very much, if its just around the house


Nice suggestion. I for some reason didn't think of that option. But otoh, the hammer feature is only like 20-30 dollar difference.
Posted by Drop4Loss
Birds Eye Of Deaf Valley
Member since Oct 2007
3850 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 12:21 pm to
I bought the impact drill the other month and said no way this frickers gonna get my boat trailer lugs nuts off........

Well, the torque nearly broke my arm and it handled them lugs like a champ...

Like I said, hang on with both hands, dont try a one hander

Its a half incher, dont know mod #
This post was edited on 9/25/13 at 12:23 pm
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22159 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 12:30 pm to
quote:

Brushless means almost nothing for the usual DIY'er


What do you mean? It's longer battery life and more efficient due to no friction.

quote:

that hammer function works great on masonry and concrete for setting anchors.


They are both hammer drills.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Member since Feb 2011
57002 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 12:33 pm to
quote:

It's longer battery life and more efficient due to no friction.


make sure you are comparing equal batteries as well on the weights and life, Dewalt has 2 or 3 different batteries in Li Ion
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22159 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 12:44 pm to
#2 is 2amp, #1 is 3amp
Posted by guesswho
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2011
1467 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 12:45 pm to
Setting anchors in concrete will heat up the batteries fairly quickly. Better keep good bits or get one that isnt cordless.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16539 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

What do you mean? It's longer battery life and more efficient due to no friction.



You'd never know the difference IRL. The batteries charge quicker than you would use them anyway. Brushless requires more electronics than the simple 2-wire setup a brushed motor needs, adds cost and decreases reliability. Plus the brushed motors are easily serviced and it costs only a few dollars to swap out the brushes that will go nearly a decade before needing replacement.


quote:

They are both hammer drills.


The hammer function on the first drill is considerably better and there is no comparison in the chucks as to which has the better. Why pay the same for a lesser drill just because of the brushless design that means nothing to a DIY'er?
Posted by MSWebfoot
Hernando
Member since Oct 2011
3263 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 1:08 pm to
Those type hammer drills are great until you try getting into your slab. You will want a real rotary hammer for that.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22159 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 1:10 pm to
quote:

You'd never know the difference IRL. The batteries charge quicker than you would use them anyway. Brushless requires more electronics than the simple 2-wire setup a brushed motor needs, adds cost and decreases reliability. Plus the brushed motors are easily serviced and it costs only a few dollars to swap out the brushes that will go nearly a decade before needing replacement.


Great info and logic.

quote:

The hammer function on the first drill is considerably better and there is no comparison in the chucks as to which has the better. Why pay the same for a lesser drill just because of the brushless design that means nothing to a DIY'er?


You won me over. #1 it is.
Posted by Interweb Cowboy
NW Bama
Member since Dec 2010
3137 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 1:33 pm to
quote:

The hammer function on the first drill is considerably better and there is no comparison in the chucks as to which has the better. Why pay the same for a lesser drill just because of the brushless design that means nothing to a DIY'er?


For the average home owner the second one IMO is the better choice because it is more compact. The hammer feature works great, I used it about a month ago to drill 24 holes in a block wall for tap-con screws and did it on one battery. I have a real 1/2 inch hammer drill and can't tell you the last time I have used it.

I got the combo pack that included an Impact, it has some serious torque. Got them for Christmas two years ago and would buy again.
Posted by convertedtiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
2785 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 1:49 pm to
We had the DeWalt XRP 18v combos at work for years. We switched to the Makita LXT218 combos about 2 years ago and love them. We have 38 sets in operation and have only sent 3 in for repairs. Of those three, I am pretty sure is was abuse and not a malfunction. The drills are light weight and powerful enough for just about every job. I would go with the 18v lithium instead of 20V personally
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 1:50 pm to
quote:

Go with the first one. Brushless means almost nothing for the usual DIY'er and that hammer function works great on masonry and concrete for setting anchors.


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