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re: Concealed Carry Recommendation

Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:55 pm to
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
39021 posts
Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:55 pm to
I really love the action of my P2000 LEM since it has no safeties whatsoever, but it has a hammer that you press with your thumb while holstering or drawing. The trigger can 'cock' the striker mechanism, but it's connected to the hinged hammer. It's cocked with the hammer down, but it's got a lighter full pull to fire. I don't explain it well, but after researching all pistols it seemed to be the most fool proof...mostly since your thumb rides the bobbed hammer and it absolutely won't fire without it cycling.


This post was edited on 11/19/15 at 9:56 pm
Posted by Clockwatcher68
Youngsville
Member since May 2006
6907 posts
Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:59 pm to
quote:

but would rather have a safety and hammer on my concealed so I can keep one in the chamber and feel a little better about it.


I have a P228. Its DA/SA with a decocker, but no safety. I believe HK P30SKS checks all of your boxes. And maybe some other HK models (P2000) with those features available as well. Can't say I know much about them.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 11/19/15 at 10:07 pm to
Check out the Walter CCP. Its basically a small version of the HK VP9. Its striker fired but has a safety. Very smooth shooting gun and very accurate.
Posted by ChatRabbit77
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
5861 posts
Posted on 11/19/15 at 10:21 pm to
quote:

small version of the HK VP9

VP9SK is coming soon. (Smaller version of VP9)
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89551 posts
Posted on 11/19/15 at 10:28 pm to
quote:

Sig makes good stuff. I shot a DA/SA .45 (don't remember the model) and it was nice. Very easy to shoot.


Either a P220 or P245. My P245 is almost certainly the best shooting pistol I will ever own.

(No safety, by the way, but has the traditional Sig decocker.)
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89551 posts
Posted on 11/19/15 at 10:31 pm to
quote:

Can any of yall recommend a good inside the waistband holster? Willing to spend some money for something functional and comfortable.


Crossbreed Supertuck has a good bit of this market and something that popular is for a reason. Check out Comptac - their Minotaur gets great reviews as well. I think there is a build time on most of these good ones, too. They don't make a whole bunch of configurations at once - so most of them are made to order (unless I'm mistaken).
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28504 posts
Posted on 11/19/15 at 11:01 pm to
quote:

Not if your finger isn't on the trigger until you are ready to fire...

this is a bad way to think. is it likely, no...but there are things that can happen to pull the trigger besides your finger...

What if your belly button ring got caught on the trigger as you were sliding into the holster?






















Posted by dawg23
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Jul 2011
5065 posts
Posted on 11/20/15 at 8:07 am to
Had an earring almost cause a Negligent Discherge - was doing tuck & roll from moving vehicle (we slowed to 30 mph for safety) and I executed a tactical cheek weld prematurely.

The Delta SEALS on my team chewed me out for that one.









OP -Do you really think you can reasonably count on being able to thumb back the hammer so your first shot is Single Action ??

No offense, but you might consider investing in some training instead of seeking advice on an outdoor forum (or worse, from a gun rag or from th eaverage clerk in a gun store).

If you get a pistol with a DA/SA trigger, you'll be faced with learning two trigger pulls. Police agencies learned a LONG time ago that this is a poor idea.

So virtually all the major LE agencies have gone to M&Ps, Glocks, SIGs and H-K's that have DAO triggers. And the vast majority carry guns with no external safety.

There are good reasons that LE agencies specify the guns listed above. But there are always folks on the interwebz that feel compelled to (a) reinvent the wheel or (b) recommend techniques and technologies that have been proven outdated for decades.

Anyone who can't learn to shoot a modern DAO trigger is never going to master a DA/SA trigger.

I teach soccer moms every week who have never touched a gun before they arrive at my office. I give every one of them a 1010% money-back guarantee -- if they can't consistently put their shots into a 3"-4" circle (shooting a Glock 19) by the end of the lesson, the lesson is free.

I have never given a free lesson. (Hitting a target with a handgun is really incredibly simple - but it does help to learn some techniques from someone who might know a a little bit about this stuff).


Just my $.02 worth.

p.s. Ignore all the handgun advice you find on outdoor forums.
Posted by Tiger_n_Texas
Member since Aug 2014
997 posts
Posted on 11/20/15 at 8:18 am to
Look at the Walther P99c. It is a DA/SA striker fired and has a decocker. No external safety however.
Posted by Dodd
Member since Oct 2003
21048 posts
Posted on 11/20/15 at 8:26 am to
The guy asked for a damn recommendation and some of you anti- safety nuts, who are about as bad as the ammo hoarders, come in like clockwork. Geez

Sorry - can't help with the OP. Don't have one.



Posted by slinger1317
Northshore
Member since Sep 2005
5857 posts
Posted on 11/20/15 at 8:30 am to
I have recently done a lot of research while looking for a CC pistol. I initially started at the Ruger LC9s, but it just didn't feel good in the hand. I then looked at M&P Shield and Glock 43. They are very similar guns, but I felt like nothing justified the higher price on the Glock. I also looked at the Sig P938, but was immediately turned off by the hammer. I purchased a Shield yesterday on Gunbroker NIB for $334. Bass Pro has them for $449.

The Shield has a safety, but I like having the choice of not using it if I don't want to. I want to get comfortable carrying the gun and also practicing pulling it, turning off safety, and firing. If I can't get the steps down to be confident in switching the safety off, then I will choose to carry it hot, and take the steps to prevent unnecessary firing.

I really wanted a reason to buy a Sig, but there is no easy way to fire it quickly. You either carry it cocked with safety on, or no safety and have to cock it. I like the idea of carrying with no safety if I so choose, and the P938 doesn't give me that option.

Now I need recs on a IWB holster for the Shield. I have looked at Crossbreed online but that big piece of leather seems rather bulky. The reviews say they are the best though.
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65045 posts
Posted on 11/20/15 at 9:01 am to
quote:

I have looked at Crossbreed online but that big piece of leather seems rather bulky.


MINI TUCK.

It does away with the large piece of leather. It's what I use.
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
83937 posts
Posted on 11/20/15 at 10:12 am to
Posted by Soul Gleaux
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2012
4027 posts
Posted on 11/20/15 at 10:36 am to
quote:

The Shield has the option for a safety, or no safety.
This post was edited on 11/20/15 at 10:37 am
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