re: Bug Out Boys

There will be roving gangs of cannibals. Eventually there will be nothing but cannibals left, and their gangs will form territorial communities that interact with other groups just like chimpanzee groups do. Brutal strength will be the greatest currency, followed by the machiavellian ability to form a consensus within groups of random humans.

Picked up the hanging bag style with valve filter on a tube below. Supposed to be good for 5000 L but I also picked up 4 more replacement cartridges. Already have rain catchment cistern and my land has a live creek that didn’t go dry even in this drought. If I didn’t have kids to put through school I would already be homesteading out there. I plan to put together a seed bank as well

ETA: it just really depends on the threat. Emp or conventional bomb but we could also easily find ourselves in another Great Depression situation and I would rather not be dependent on the soup line.

there's enough feral pigs running around to feed the country...

Forget about the seeds for now. Concentrate on beans and rice and spices. Lots of salts and sugar, pepper, GEL Season Salt, basil, oregano, etc.

Comcentrate on getting a dehydrator and a vaccum sealer and start jerking beef, buying canned chicken from Costco and Sam's. Figure 2000 calories per day per person minimum. 3500 is better but count wife, kids, parents, whomever, and figure minimum 2000 calories per day.

You can do five gallon buckets in mylar bags. Lots of videos on YouTube about doing it.

Also, go to YouTube and watch some videos ln how to make your own gravity water purification system using 5 gallon buckets or stainless pots from Walmart on the cheap. Go to Amazon and order a 4 pack of the ceramic domed filters with the activated charcoal packs inside. They work really well.

I've got a couple of Berkeys, a Royal and a Crown, but they're expensive and they're something you can get after you get your food stores, your first aid and your water issues fully covered.

You can never have too many waterproof bags, gallon baggies, 55 gal 10 mil lawn and garden trash bags, etc. You'll need them post shtf ... they'll serve a lot of purposes.

Make everything redundant .... five ways to have clean and pure drinking water. Five ways to start a fire. Five levels of security perimeter around your AO. Five types pf firearms and ammo .... a 12 gauge, a 22 LR pistol and rifle, an AR 15 and a 308. Those are the basics and there will be ammo for those. The 22 LR is lightweight. If you want 38/357 try to find a carbine to go with your pistol like a levergun of some sort .... Rossi, Henry, Marlin.

Remember, five ways to collect and purify water. Five ways, no less.

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When All Hell Breaks Loose by Cody Lundin
This is a good book to have. It gives you intricate info, such as how much bleach to treat water. It sits near my guns and is a must have. I read the EMP books and they’re good. But this is more specific

Don’t know. Got this book more than 10 years ago.

That’s a thick book just about knots

You probably still have better odds than living in New Orleans or Chicago, or even the suburbs. What happens when 1m people get hungry and Rouse's hasn't opened in weeks? They go door-to-door with the guns that supposedly aren't allowed in big cities and take whatever food you can find. That's called anarchy, and they also take whatever else they want. Gold. Money. Women. It's like Berlin 1945 when the Russians showed up.

I'll take my chances in the woods before I try the Berlin 1945 thing.

That said the OP is correct, the pressure on local game is going to be a big deal. I just don't want to be the local game.