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Aynone here have a sail boat or know much about them?

Posted on 2/12/15 at 8:17 am
Posted by chickman1313
Mandeville
Member since Dec 2007
4922 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 8:17 am
Am thinking of looking for one, I have zero experience, although I have been on one before. Was just trying to get an idea on what I would spend on an older boat, which a cabin. No clue on length, I assume I'd need a 25 hp outboard or so on it?

Just looking for a starting point, obviously i can spend $100k on one, but could I find one for $10k in ready to sail shape?

This post was edited on 2/12/15 at 8:20 am
Posted by PaBon
UPT 17th W/D
Member since Sep 2014
1890 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 8:21 am to
you can get a bad arse boat for 10k fyi. there are a ton here on the gulf coast. i wish i had time to throw some info at you, but you should spend some time on a boat firstly, wed night races @ NOYC or SYC and talk to some of the geeks out there. people are always looking for crew members.
Posted by tiger693
Houston
Member since Oct 2011
118 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 8:31 am to
quote:

I assume I'd need a 25 hp outboard or so on it?
you can put a 25HP if the bracket is big enough but you certainly wouldn't need to. Most people use <10HP or so. You only need an outboard to get out from the marina to the open water and raise sail. I got by just fine on my 22' daysailer, and it displaced 3500#, with a 6.5HP. With $10k you could get a good sized boat ready to sail that might even have an inboard.
Posted by gorillacoco
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
5318 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 8:39 am to
paging eng08
Posted by tiger693
Houston
Member since Oct 2011
118 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 8:47 am to
check out websites like this

I say go down to SYC or NOYC like PaBon said, learn from the old salts there/take actual lessons. Then get a starter boat based on what you decide you want from your learning stage.

After a quick search, I'd be all over this if I were you
This post was edited on 2/12/15 at 8:50 am
Posted by chickman1313
Mandeville
Member since Dec 2007
4922 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 9:01 am to
yeah i was looking at that site, what are the main worries with buying a 25+ year old sail boat? many of the ones I have seen have inboards, is that preferrable?

The one you linked is 30', is there a preferrable length? Have seen a few 26 and 27 footers I am interested in also.
Posted by eng08
Member since Jan 2013
5997 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 9:14 am to
Ha, money pit.

Take paBon's advice and go sail some more. NOYC has guys who are always willing to take you out to sail.
Posted by tiger693
Houston
Member since Oct 2011
118 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 9:31 am to
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what are the main worries with buying a 25+ year old sail boat?

- hull integrity: are there any soft spots/cracks in the fiberglass? is the paint/gel coat still there or has it faded away, leaving the fiberglass exposed?
- sail quality/rigging: is everything I need to go out sailing today on the boat/in working order? are the sails torn/worn/tattered? is the rigging in working order?
- motor: does this boat have a motor? does it work?

can't think of anything else off the top of my head but I am sure I am missing something.

quote:

many of the ones I have seen have inboards, is that preferrable?

- if it works good, then yes IMO. All boats I have had had outboards, however, I think boats don't look as good with an outboard hanging off the stern.
- outboards are easier to maintain, inboards are more convenient and look better.

quote:

The one you linked is 30', is there a preferrable length? Have seen a few 26 and 27 footers I am interested in also.
30 is just the neighborhood of the next boat I will get, so that was a little biased of me . 26' or 27' would be fine. Size depends on what you want to do with the boat/how many people you want to have on board, and how comfortable you want guests to be.

I had a 22 footer that I just got rid of back in May. I regularly had 5-6 people in addition to myself onboard. It was a little tight for space sometimes but we managed.
Posted by tiger693
Houston
Member since Oct 2011
118 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 9:32 am to
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Ha, money pit.

Uncle always says
B.O.A.T. = Break Out Another Thousand
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
4051 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 11:03 am to
You can get a hell of a boat these days for 10 grand. That's the beauty of fiberglass sailboats. There's no such thing as a fiberglass worm. They last forever.

Check out Sailing Texas. They seem to be the best resource IMHO. They aren't confined to Texas. Got TONS of pics of the boats that have been listed there so you can see a lot of examples of the boats you're looking for.

I sail weekly on a 22' Catalina, 22' Chrysler, Spirit 6.5 and have sailed a lot of others in that range. Mostly boats from the seventies and eighties because that's when they were making them. You don't need a new boat unless you just want one. They're cheap compared to motorboats because half the cost of it isn't motor.

I use a 6 horse Yamaha sail drive outboard on my Catalina. And I've slept 5 on it more than once. Took it up to Lake Ouachita with the wife and three daughters for 5 nights like that one time sailing around anchoring on different islands every night.

As for condition of the boats, SOME of them have known problems with blisters and delamination but those are few and far between. If a blister is small I wouldn't even bother being concerned with it. In damn near all cases that's just cosmetic. If you don't know much about them, I'd recommend you find someone that does to go through the boat with you before you buy and check out everything first. Inspect all rigging. If it's a swing keel then check the pin and cable. See if the electronics are working and most importantly inspect the sails. If they're old and bagged out and soft, you're going to need to replace them and that's where it gets expensive. Luckily you really don't have to do that very often. Compared to a powerboat they're completely economical. You aren't using much fuel. Motors are small so repairs aren't as expensive. And most of the problems you find on them can be fixed with epoxy and fiberglass and elbow grease.

Been sailing for over thirty years now and I'm more addicted to it than ever. If I don't sail every week I get withdrawals.
Posted by chickman1313
Mandeville
Member since Dec 2007
4922 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 12:57 pm to
thank yall for the advice. yall have gotten me pretty pumped up! seems like this will be pretty feasible, once i figure out that little detail of how to sail. but seems like there are plenty of folks willing to teach so thats a plus!

I would probably keep it docked in the mandeville harbor and just sail around the lake. guess I could just anchor and sleep out there huh? no issues?
Posted by eng08
Member since Jan 2013
5997 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 1:50 pm to
You could do that in the lake however if the weather turns it could get bad quickly.

Growing up we used to sail to mandeville, bayou lacombe, madisonville, Slidell. Sometimes spend the night and come back in am.

We also spent many Easters and long spring weekends out of Gulfport/pass Christian and stayed out on horn and cat island. Those trips were usually on borrowed much bigger boats of 40-50 ft.

Lake pontchartrain is a great lake to sail on with good sailing almost year round. Summer is considered the bad time of year, but it's actually pretty good after 5 pm with the breeze along the shoreline. There is just nothing far out in the lake.
Posted by eng08
Member since Jan 2013
5997 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 1:51 pm to
Also if you are in mandeville chickman I am sure someone at mandeville yacht club would point you in the correct direction to crew on a boat.
Posted by chickman1313
Mandeville
Member since Dec 2007
4922 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 1:58 pm to
quote:

We also spent many Easters and long spring weekends out of Gulfport/pass Christian and stayed out on horn and cat island.


when you do something like this, you just call ahead and rent a slip for the night?

obviously the rates are different everywhere, but whats a typical price to rent a slip, like where I would kkep the boat permanently? in addition do you just get a utility bill like it was a house?
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
4051 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 2:22 pm to
The learning to sail part is best attacked as a crewman on somebody elses boat. Somebody that actually likes you.

There's lots of horror stories from folks who show up for race days and get stuck on some screaming nutjob's boat not knowing a thing about sailing and get immediately turned off of it.

Ask around. There's usually some old dude with too much boat and decades of experience that would like nothing more than someone's who's respectful and wants to learn and can pull on a line to crew for them.

And don't disregard what you can learn from sailing dinghys. Big boats are generally easier to sail than little ones. Every boat's different so don't think once you get one that's the only one you will be able to sail. The principles are universal. And the cool thing about it is you never stop learning. There's always something you didn't know. Some tweak you pick up.

It's one of the most relaxing things that will ever scare the shite out of you.
This post was edited on 2/12/15 at 2:26 pm
Posted by eng08
Member since Jan 2013
5997 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 3:42 pm to
No, we took a friends boat and then went out there and anchored on the bay side of the islands. watched the weather close and it's usually pretty calm. If weather was bad we didn't go.

I loved staying on the boats overnight.
Posted by eng08
Member since Jan 2013
5997 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 3:44 pm to
Hours of pure boredom and concentration interspersed with moments of shear terror is how I usually describe racing sailboats.
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
4051 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 4:45 pm to
Yeah there's something about sleeping on a sailboat. It's hard to do it wrong.
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