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re: Anyone here ever had a wolf dog?

Posted on 12/16/22 at 8:15 pm to
Posted by UnderhandRabbit
Camp Arifjan, Kuwait
Member since May 2011
537 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 8:15 pm to
I don’t think stitches is saying that a wolf wouldn’t/couldn’t win the fight or that a pit would kill a wolf most times, but that all these fools here saying a wolf would kill a pit 100/100 times, in a matter of seconds, ripping it shreds are dumb as hell. Especially since every reason is bc it’s bigger, and weighs more with a stronger bite force. So by that reasoning a true fighting pit bull would also stand no chance against a Great Dane.
Posted by Stitches
Member since Oct 2019
870 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 8:23 pm to
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Yes they absolutely fight one on one alot.


They display a show of force in an attempt to assert dominance. Way different than fighting until death. My intact dogs do it from time to time and rarely if ever put a scratch on each other.

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And your knowledge of pitbulls is irrelevant.


It absolutely is relevant, as is your lack of knowledge on pitbulls.

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Here’s a video of a pit fighting a coyote


I have seen videos of a single non-gamebred pitbull pulling apart multiple coyotes trying to kill it at the same time. What's your point?
Posted by Seen
Member since Aug 2022
1127 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 8:23 pm to
LINK

Not to take much from this, but looks like a young wolf against a pit. Bad video but only one I can find. Most in comments agree it’s a young wolf.
Posted by Stitches
Member since Oct 2019
870 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 8:25 pm to
Bingo.
Posted by Seen
Member since Aug 2022
1127 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 8:25 pm to
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but that all these fools here saying a wolf would kill a pit 100/100 times, in a matter of seconds, ripping it shreds are dumb as hell


I can agree with this, especially a young or old wolf. I just have a hard time believing an adult male in its prime wolf against an adult male in its prime pit, that the pit would win. 100 fights, sure, definitely possible pit gets a win
Posted by Seen
Member since Aug 2022
1127 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 8:27 pm to
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It absolutely is relevant, as is your lack of knowledge on pitbulls.


It’s not relevant because you don’t know my knowledge and past regarding pits and you are obviously not knowledgeable on wolves. I believe you are knowledgeable on pits however that’s irrelevant when it comes to a wild wolf
This post was edited on 12/16/22 at 8:32 pm
Posted by UnderhandRabbit
Camp Arifjan, Kuwait
Member since May 2011
537 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 8:28 pm to
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LINK Here’s a video of a pit fighting a coyote. Video goes on for 2 minutes and coyote is still alive albeit done for. I’ve seen videos of a single wolf killing a coyote in a matter of a few seconds, like grabbing a newborn fawn


The guy in the video literally says you can tell this is a young unseasoned dog that hasn’t been trained where to bite yet lol.

Also, “look it took this pit 2 minutes to kill this coyote where I’ve seen a wolf do it in seconds! Wolf would win!” That’s the dumb reasonings I was talking about
Posted by Seen
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 12/16/22 at 8:31 pm to
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The guy in the video literally says you can tell this is a young unseasoned dog that hasn’t been trained where to bite yet lol.


It’s also a young wolf, doubt it was a full wolf anyways, probably a wolf dog like this thread is about. Seriously doubt they came upon a wild wolf and got that close to film it.

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Also, “look it took this pit 2 minutes to kill this coyote where I’ve seen a wolf do it in seconds! Wolf would win!” That’s the dumb reasonings I was talking about


I won’t argue that. I posted out of interest. But if someone takes 2-3 minutes to beat my arse and someone else takes 5-6 seconds. If they fight each other I’m a put my money on the 5-6 seconds guy
Posted by Stitches
Member since Oct 2019
870 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 8:32 pm to
Yeah so what I've been trying to say is that a wolf CAN kill a pitbull, but what I originally stated in reference to the pitbull having the greater odds of winning was specific to it being in a small space or corner, which is the pitbulls bread and butter. In that specific scenario, I'm betting on the wolf trying to escape, realizing it can't in this f***** up scenario, trying to kill the pitbull and realizing it's not that easy and rarely works that way when your opponent isn't a deer that's going to run from you, then the odds shifting heavily towards the pitbull as times goes on.
Posted by Stitches
Member since Oct 2019
870 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 8:34 pm to
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It’s not relevant because you don’t know my knowledge and past regarding pits


Everything I know about them comes directly from the mouths of legends in that community.
Posted by Seen
Member since Aug 2022
1127 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 8:38 pm to
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Yeah so what I've been trying to say is that a wolf CAN kill a pitbull, but what I originally stated in reference to the pitbull having the greater odds of winning was specific to it being in a small space or corner, which is the pitbulls bread and butter. In that specific scenario, I'm betting on the wolf trying to escape,


If you put them in a phone booth you may have a point. In a small enclosed back yard where there is at least some room to maneuver I feel wolf will win almost every time. Both animals are smart enough to quickly figure out there is no way out. If they start off knowing that I feel wolf gets the kill. We can agree to disagree, even though we may not fully disagree
Posted by Seen
Member since Aug 2022
1127 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 8:41 pm to
Our perspective is different. And yours is actually realistic. A pit is use to being in an enclosed space where wolves are free to roam, and can’t afford injuries.

I’m looking at it from perspective of both animals in a fenced backyard knowing they fight to the death
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 8:59 pm to
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legends in that community.


Michael Vick?
Posted by indytiger
baton rouge/indy
Member since Oct 2004
9834 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 8:35 pm to
Was excited to read 4 pages of cool stories about wolf dogs as pets. Instead I got a 4 page argument about a fictional animal fight. Sweet.
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
3703 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 9:23 pm to
Why are Lacy dogs not good pets?
Posted by Stitches
Member since Oct 2019
870 posts
Posted on 12/18/22 at 6:16 am to
Imagine the most hyper dog you've ever come across, and multiply that by 2. Then add on top of that the fact that they have the highest prey drive of any breed on the planet, with the sole focus of wanting to unalive every animal that walks, swims, or flies.

Add to that the fact that they're extremely sensitive to punishment, so you can't just beat them when they cause trouble. You have to handle them like a toddler.

It's a breed that requires a ton of training, 2 tons of patience, and literally a daily job. Frisbee and a walk around the park doesn't cut it.

Mine work cattle 7 days a week, I road them around my farm about 7-10 miles a day, they track deer during deer season, and those things barely tire them.

Lots of people get them because they look cool and have a neat history, and then a year later have to rehome them because they can't handle them. There's several Facebook groups that exist solely to rehome them from pet homes to working homes.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95247 posts
Posted on 12/18/22 at 6:59 am to
I have personally seen a pit wreck a 300 lb mean snarling backed in a corner boar with 10” cutters

I think if a wolf “knew” it was in a fight, it would win. But it just isn’t their trained instinct like it is for a pit. That split second hesitation or thought to run instead would have it fricked in a cage I think
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