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re: Anyone here ever had a wolf dog?
Posted on 12/15/22 at 10:20 am to Seen
Posted on 12/15/22 at 10:20 am to Seen
Client of mine has a female wolf. Got it as a pup from a breeder, I think in the Anacoco area.
It's now 13 years old, 160 lbs.
One day his wife was walking it while he walked their Golden behind her. They got "jumped" by a dog of peace.
Big mistake by the dog of peace, but it lived to tell about it.
It's now 13 years old, 160 lbs.
One day his wife was walking it while he walked their Golden behind her. They got "jumped" by a dog of peace.
Big mistake by the dog of peace, but it lived to tell about it.
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Posted on 12/15/22 at 11:42 am to Stitches
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There isn't a livestock guardian dog on the planet that's been selectively bred, inbred, and linebred for 2 centuries to forgo organ failure, mangled limbs, and loss of life for sport fighting.
Found the pit breeder.
How about 10 centuries? 20 centuries? 30? 40? The kangal dog has been selectively bred since the days of the Assyrian empire.
It is also considered one of the few breeds of dogs on the planet capable of killing an actual wolf.
If you have the stomach for it, feel free to watch the turkish dog fighting videos showing them releasing pairs of game bred pits onto a single kangal. Or worse... A few game pits vs a pair.
Size matters.
Posted on 12/15/22 at 11:56 am to X123F45
I neither own nor breed pitbulls. I own and train working Lacy dogs.
I don't watch that sort of stuff, but a quick Google search tells me that the pitbulls in those videos are fat as hell and aren't real pitbulls. A quick Google search also tells me there are videos of real gamebred pitbulls wrecking Kangals.
Also my comment that you quoted still stands. Kangals were historically bred for livestock protection, not pit fighting.
There are a number of breeds that are bigger and stronger and bite hard enough to whip the very best pitbulls for a few minutes. But like the Kangal, they're not going to rough it out for the several hours it would take to totally subdue a true pitbull.
So whereas any one Kangal might beat any one REAL pitbull, more times than not, a Kangal is looking for the exit when a match is still going 15 mins later against the "I would rather die than quit" opponent in the pitbull.
But based on your math, because a Kangal can kill a pitbull, a pitbull can't kill a wolf?
Found the idiot.
I don't watch that sort of stuff, but a quick Google search tells me that the pitbulls in those videos are fat as hell and aren't real pitbulls. A quick Google search also tells me there are videos of real gamebred pitbulls wrecking Kangals.
Also my comment that you quoted still stands. Kangals were historically bred for livestock protection, not pit fighting.
There are a number of breeds that are bigger and stronger and bite hard enough to whip the very best pitbulls for a few minutes. But like the Kangal, they're not going to rough it out for the several hours it would take to totally subdue a true pitbull.
So whereas any one Kangal might beat any one REAL pitbull, more times than not, a Kangal is looking for the exit when a match is still going 15 mins later against the "I would rather die than quit" opponent in the pitbull.
But based on your math, because a Kangal can kill a pitbull, a pitbull can't kill a wolf?
Found the idiot.
This post was edited on 12/15/22 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 12/15/22 at 4:16 pm to Stitches
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If in a corner or enclosed space, I'm going with the pitbull.
Buddy a wolf would have a pittbull dead as a doornail inside a minute
Posted on 12/15/22 at 4:23 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
Friend had a wolf and shepherd mix
Dog would sit in your lap all damn day and howled all the time.
It started killing goats though and digging giant dens in the ground as it got older
The thing shed more than any dog I have ever seen
Dog would sit in your lap all damn day and howled all the time.
It started killing goats though and digging giant dens in the ground as it got older
The thing shed more than any dog I have ever seen
Posted on 12/15/22 at 4:33 pm to jimjackandjose
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howled all the time.
It started killing goats though and digging giant dens in the ground
Sounds like my kinda dog
Posted on 12/15/22 at 6:06 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
It literally wouldn't 99.99% of the time, and in that case, the longer it lasts, the more the odds are in the pitbulls' favor.
Posted on 12/15/22 at 6:17 pm to weagle99
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using its heavy weight to overwhelm the much lighter wolf.
What kind of baby wolf is this?
A buddy has one mounted he killed in Saskatchewan. It went 180 plus. Big black s.o.b.
Another friend lives up there and has a big lease that he guides hunters on, and traps wolves as well. He sent me some pics of some hides hanging on some doors in his house. The noses were hooked on the top corners of the doors and quite a bit of the hides were dragging on the floor.
I believe the pit would be cut to pieces before succumbing to the injuries. Or have his skull crushed like a walnut.
Posted on 12/15/22 at 6:31 pm to Seen
A friend of mine had a dog that was 1/4 or 1/2 wolf in college. It cornered his roommates girlfriend on the kitchen table one time.
They weren’t roommates after that.
But she was a bitch.
So I was kinda like, “Aight, dog.”
They weren’t roommates after that.
But she was a bitch.
So I was kinda like, “Aight, dog.”
This post was edited on 12/15/22 at 6:39 pm
Posted on 12/15/22 at 6:53 pm to LSUfan20005
One dude used to bring his to Hal and Mal's in Jackson and sit outside. Tyke was a big ole teddy bear. Everyone petted him.
Posted on 12/15/22 at 9:04 pm to Seen
Had a buddy with one that was like 80-90% wolf and the rest was German Shepard. Bought in a real sketchy manor. It was a lot like a poorly trained dog, except it nipped and bit a lot anytime you played with it.
Then he bought a second one from the same person and they just howled all the time. The second one was super skidish to the point I don’t think I ever pet it.
Then he bought a second one from the same person and they just howled all the time. The second one was super skidish to the point I don’t think I ever pet it.
Posted on 12/16/22 at 8:33 am to Stitches
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large hard biting mouths that don't let go once they have a mouthful.
I love when people say this, as if other large dogs aren't capable of doing the same. You think a fricking 150lb wolf would just bite the pit one time and let go, or he'd latch onto his little neck and hold on to it until that worthless trash pit dies? This isn't a golden retriever that doesn't have the instincts of how to kill prey. A wolf knows how to kill another animal, and a 40-50lb pit would stand very little chance against a 150lb wolf.
Posted on 12/16/22 at 9:01 am to TeddyPadillac
Yeah, see there's this thing called "mouth" that is an adjective and not a noun. It describes the ability to grab and hold on to something with nearly the entire bite force for extremely long periods of time to both inflict damage and prevent the other animal from being able to maneuver against you, which almost no other dog or wild canid is specifically bred for, almost exclusively with the exception of the American Pitbull Terrier.
So, yeah. A lone wolf, lacking support from the rest of the pack, in a small pit ring where it's rangy body meant for covering large distances gives it no advantages, and where it's natural instinct to run to preserve its life is incapacitated, is going to get wrecked.
So, yeah. A lone wolf, lacking support from the rest of the pack, in a small pit ring where it's rangy body meant for covering large distances gives it no advantages, and where it's natural instinct to run to preserve its life is incapacitated, is going to get wrecked.
Posted on 12/16/22 at 9:17 am to Stitches
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Yeah, see there's this thing called "mouth" that is an adjective and not a noun. It describes the ability to grab and hold on to something with nearly the entire bite force for extremely long periods of time to both inflict damage and prevent the other animal from being able to maneuver against you, which almost no other dog or wild canid is specifically bred for, almost exclusively with the exception of the American Pitbull Terrier.
well that's b/c every other dog is bred to be family pets.
a wolf, is not a domesticated dog. How do you think it kills deer? Have you seen wild animals kill their prey before? They do this thing where they grab their prey's neck, with their mouth, biting really hard, and they don't let go until the prey quits breathing. It's kind of an important trait for all wolves to have, b/c you know, it's essential to them surviving. This isn't some bred trait into pit bulls that they only have. Pit bulls are fricking stupid, and that's probably the one thing that it has in it's corner, that it's too stupid to know when to retreat b/c it will keep fighting until it dies, whereas an animal with a brain will say frick this and get out of the situation.
The only chance some 50lb pit would have against a 150lb wolf is if it catches it off guard and jumps and bites his neck on the first try. If it doesn't get the neck on that first try, then the wolf will probably crush his stupid arse skull with one bite.
Posted on 12/16/22 at 9:27 am to TeddyPadillac
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well that's b/c every other dog is bred to be family pets
False. Lots of breeds are still overwhelmingly bred to be working dogs. I own Lacy's for working cattle and tracking deer, and they make terrible pets.
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How do you think it kills deer?
Running an animal to exhaustion and killing it with the help of a pack the majority of the time.
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Have you seen wild animals kill their prey before
Yep, and usually the prey isn't willing to fight back, much less just for the fun of it.
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Pit bulls are fricking stupid, and that's probably the one thing that it has in it's corner, that it's too stupid to know when to retreat b/c it will keep fighting until it dies
Pitbulls are classified as an intelligent breed. What you describe is called "gameness", and has nothing to do with intelligence. My Lacy's are game dogs too, but for a different purpose, and are smart as any breed I've encountered.
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The only chance some 50lb pit would have against a 150lb wolf is if it catches it off guard and jumps and bites his neck on the first try. If it doesn't get the neck on that first try, then the wolf will probably crush his stupid arse skull with one bite.
A wolf isn't wrapping its mouth around a pitbulls watermelon head to begin with. It's going to be caught completely off-guard when the pitbull goes kamikaze and rushes towards it instead of away from it like wolves are used to seeing. Totally different ballgame than the open wild with 6 of its best friends to assist it in a kill.
Posted on 12/16/22 at 6:17 pm to Stitches
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So, yeah. A lone wolf, lacking support from the rest of the pack,
The number 1 killer of wolves is another wolf. They fight one on one a lot. They may run off initially from a big dog because they hunt to survive and can’t get wounded by an irrelevant (to them) animal, Fido goes home and gets fed by Gary. I’ve looked up so many articles and even over dramatic YouTube videos and 99% feel a full wolf vs a pit would be a dead pit in a matter of seconds. Unbelievable you think the opposite. A huge pit may be 80lbs, an average wolf is gonna run 140-150. The wolf would kill a pit and then shite on it.
This post was edited on 12/16/22 at 6:34 pm
Posted on 12/16/22 at 7:03 pm to Seen
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99% feel a full wolf vs a pit would be a dead pit in a matter of seconds. Unbelievable you think the opposite
Probably because I actually know what I'm talking about when it comes to the key aspects between a wolf, a true pitbull, and how their differences apply in a close-quartered game of mortal combat.
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The number 1 killer of wolves is another wolf
No its not
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They fight one on one a lot
No they don't
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wolf vs a pit would be a dead pit in a matter of seconds
Just a quick Google search tells me that an extreme minority of dog fights end in a matter of minutes much less seconds, even between dogs of vastly different sizes, and the ones that do are usually staged that way on purpose to benefit whatever kool-aid breed the parties are promoting.
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pit may be 80lbs
That's not a pitbull. Case in point.
This post was edited on 12/16/22 at 7:07 pm
Posted on 12/16/22 at 7:30 pm to Seen
[quote]The wolf would kill a pit and then shite on it.[/quote
Or eat it.
Putting them in a fighting pit would definitely help level the playing field. Don’t think that would be enough to save the pit bull, though. The smaller the enclosure the better chance the pit would have. But unless he got a lucky grip early, it’s a done deal.
Disclaimer : only my opinion.
Or eat it.
Putting them in a fighting pit would definitely help level the playing field. Don’t think that would be enough to save the pit bull, though. The smaller the enclosure the better chance the pit would have. But unless he got a lucky grip early, it’s a done deal.
Disclaimer : only my opinion.
This post was edited on 12/16/22 at 7:32 pm
Posted on 12/16/22 at 8:04 pm to Stitches
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No its not
Ok, as far as natural deaths from what I read a few days ago reading y’all’s arguments. You are correct, hunters and vehicles kill more.
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No they don't
Yes they absolutely fight one on one alot.
And your knowledge of pitbulls is irrelevant.
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