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re: Would You Use A Doctor Who Graduated From A Med School in Caribbean?

Posted on 4/17/15 at 11:43 am to
Posted by stniaSxuaeG
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 11:43 am to
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They cannot practice in America unless they pass american boards so I do not see why not.
You don't have to be board certified to practice, FWIW.

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One of the best doctors I know of is an osteopathic physician. They have almost the same curriculum and compete with allopathic students for the same residencies.

This. Their med school training is almost identical to MDs with the addition of some non-traditional stuff.

You'd probably not be able to tell the difference between an MD and a DO in a particular field if you didn't look at his/her name tag.
This post was edited on 4/17/15 at 11:45 am
Posted by DWaginHTown
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 11:46 am to
didn't the poster Dale Murphy go to a med school in the Caribbean?
Posted by member12
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 11:51 am to
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we've beaten this up a few times before but general consensus is where they did residency has more bearing than where they went to school


This. Experience also is important.
Posted by lsuhunt555
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 11:51 am to
I know a guy who did this. He couldnt score well enough on the MCAT I believe to get into a state side med school. I believe his field is plastic surgeon.
Posted by oldcharlie8
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 12:03 pm to
when it comes to choosing a doctor, I always go with the oldest one. it seems like they have more experience with "seen it all" if you know what I mean.

I suspect that this helps them diagnose a little better.

that's just me
Posted by member12
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 12:04 pm to
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when it comes to choosing a doctor, I always go with the oldest one. it seems like they have more experience with "seen it all" if you know what I mean.


I usually go with what trusted friends and family members recommend.

Luckily I haven't needed a physician for anything more serious than a kidney stone....but the day that I'll be an old fart with serious medical needs is fast approaching.

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You'd probably not be able to tell the difference between an MD and a DO in a particular field if you didn't look at his/her name tag.


That's true. A lot of hospitals are staffed with both. The patient would never know the difference.

They are pretty much the same thing as an MD.....right down to the residency matches, highly political admissions process, and very high compensation.
This post was edited on 4/17/15 at 12:08 pm
Posted by LSUrme
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 12:31 pm to
I have 2 friends that went to Caribbean med schools and they are both dumbshits. Wouldn't let them near me for medical purposes.

Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 12:37 pm to
No, I wouldn't mind if Doctor Who graduated from a med school in the Caribbean.
Posted by Mootsman
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 12:43 pm to
They are probably more than qualified but couldn't get in due to affirmative action. You know the med schools forcing all these black / asian / and indian doctors down our throat for the sake of "diversity".
Posted by Dale Murphy
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 1:06 pm to
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didn't the poster Dale Murphy go to a med school in the Caribbean?


Yep, and don't regret the decision at all. Many offshore schools are filled with non traditional students, i.e. those that don't go straight to medical school after undergrad. I tried doing a few things after graduation and hated it. So instead of waiting around hoping to get into a state school, I went straight to an offshore school. Finished residency last summer and I'm doing very well right now.
As many have said, medical school has very little to do with how good a certain doctor is. If you can pass the USMLE exams and get a residency spot, then you're not a dummy. In fact, all residency spots are more difficult to obtain for IMGs now, so it could almost be said that current IMGs have to show some pretty outstanding traits to get a residency position. Which is why I'd say you shouldn't hesitate to choose one as your physician. But I understand that there's still a bad vibe concerning those schools. But I've known plenty of physicians from US schools that I'd not want treating my family members. Depends on the person, not the school.
Posted by Tigerstark
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 1:41 pm to
I have a specialists who graduated from Ross. He's probably the favorite Doctor I have. Spends plenty of time answering questions, calls me back personally, etc.

I've heard from another guy that knows him that he had everything needed for Med School (good GPA, good MCat, volunteering, etc) but not one thing that was outstanding and he needed something that stood out. He was advised to do some things to really show he wanted to be a doctor and reapply the next year, but he chose Ross instead. Supposedly it was just over a year or so there of intense class work, and then did the same thing US docs do - did his rotations and all other stuff here in the states.

To answer your question, it probably depends upon the doc. I know plenty of terrible doctors that went to med school in the US.
Posted by Lithium
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 1:43 pm to
They're are some good MDs from there but the worst MDs I've enciuntered are from there as well. As long as they're board certified they are probably ok
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 1:44 pm to
Residency is far more important than med school.
Posted by Sheep
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 1:46 pm to
Posted by Green_Tangerine
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 2:17 pm to
Posted by WeeWee
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 2:44 pm to
quote:

'm on the search for a new primary care doctor in Dallas for regular checkups, annuals etc.
I've been looking at the MD review sites and see some with good reviews but when I click on their bio, a good many of them have graduated from med schools in Caribbean. I'm hesitant to choose a doctor who couldn't get into a US med school. I don't care if they have degrees from Johns Hopkins or Harvard, but Ross University, St George etc has me a little wary of these doctors abilities. Am I wrong in these assumptions?


1. Residency is what matters. If he/she knew enough medical knowledge to get a residency than he/she knows just as much as any US trained doctor. Especially since every medical textbook or research paper can be downloaded on his/her ipad in a matter of seconds if he/she doesn't know.
2. I maybe a little bias (since I am currently a caribbean med student), but med school in the caribbean is nothing like that the perception is. The US medical schools cull people left and right because they don't fit into all the boxes. The caribbean med students are studying their arses off right now just like the US ones. We also have the option to do out clinical rotations outside the US and see other medical systems and apply what they do right and avoid what they do wrong. In the US the students only see what is done in that state (i.e LSU students only know how it is done in Louisiana hospitals, OM students only know how it is done in Misssissippi hospitals).
3. Better get used to have doctors that went to school outside the US and that is not necessarily a bad thing. Europe and the rest of the world figured out decades ago that it is cheaper and has better results if you try to cure the pt and promote a healthy lifestyle and all that mumbo jumbo that it was just to throw pills down pt's throats. One of my professors practiced in the US and the Netherlands before he retired and just started teaching. He said he was amazed that when he started praciticing in the US in the 80's that GPs were not advising overweight pts to seek nutrional and exercise therapy to try and lose weight to help control blood pressure.
Posted by gooch11
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 3:57 pm to
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This. Their med school training is almost identical to MDs with the addition of some non-traditional stuff.

You'd probably not be able to tell the difference between an MD and a DO in a particular field if you didn't look at his/her name tag.


If you can't get into Medical School in the US, you go to the Caribbean. If you can't get in there, you go to D.O. school. No thanks.

And no, you won't be able to tell them apart by their name tags either because the D.O.'s will just put "Dr. Smith", leaving off the "D.O" so people just assume they're an MD. Chiropractors do the same shite.
Posted by Big Block Stingray
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 4:00 pm to
Nope
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 4:05 pm to
If I wanted Xanax or adderall, then yeah. Other than that, no.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 4:10 pm to
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If you can't get into Medical School in the US, you go to the Caribbean. If you can't get in there, you go to D.O. school. No thanks.


In terms of prestige, in general:
US Allopathic > US Osteopathic >
Foreign medical school (like the Caribbean)


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And no, you won't be able to tell them apart by their name tags either because the D.O.'s will just put "Dr. Smith", leaving off the "D.O" so people just assume they're an MD. Chiropractors do the same shite.


These are very far from being similar. A chiropractor who has completed a doctorate program still isn't a physician. Osteopaths are most definitely physicians in every sense of the word. For all intents and purposes, when discussing physicians, MD=DO. Most DOs go on to receive the same allopathic residency training. There are many who do go on to practice osteopathy, but the vast majority of them wind up in competition with US MDs before anyone else for residency spots.



And, lastly, chiropractory is loosely based on the teachings of osteopathy, minus the medical training. Osteopathy basically is regular allopathic medicine + physical manipulation. To not regard a DO similarly/the same as an MD who graduated from the same residency program is a farce, at best.




Also, you'll rarely find an osteopath who practices osteopathy who doesn't rave about it and explain how superior it is to allopathic/md practice.



ETA: in no way am I suggesting that all DO > Caribbean MDs. That's just the general trend I've encountered, the perception I've come to gather. Much like USMD grads, there's plenty of good and plenty of bad that come through. Board certification is probably your best bet to distinguish who you want treating you, then personality, and once you've gotten past that, consider asking where they went to school. It's not all that important.
This post was edited on 4/17/15 at 4:15 pm
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