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re: Why do universities hire professors that students can't understand?

Posted on 8/30/19 at 9:17 pm to
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 8/30/19 at 9:17 pm to
This is probably why I'm a lawyer instead of a scientist, engineer, or mathematician. I literally had no clue what some of these people were saying. One computer science instructor was so bad I actually felt sorry for her. I think I still dropped the class though. I didn't sign up and pay for that shite.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
55831 posts
Posted on 8/30/19 at 9:41 pm to
You have to give the small liberal arts schools due credit... they care about teaching kids
Posted by TG
Metairie
Member since Sep 2004
3061 posts
Posted on 8/30/19 at 10:07 pm to
How can you learn from the professor if their use of English isn’t understood???
Posted by pensacola
pensacola
Member since Sep 2005
4635 posts
Posted on 8/30/19 at 10:08 pm to
Ding bang ow
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
30280 posts
Posted on 8/30/19 at 10:10 pm to
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We registered for classes over the phone with Reggie


Yep, trying to actually get the call picked up was so frustrating. BUSY BUSY BUSY BUSY BUSY...I remember people saying that if you lived closer to the university, you had a better chance of getting in quicker. That makes no sense at all but we sure did it anyway.
Posted by Bullfrog
Institutionalized but Unevaluated
Member since Jul 2010
56369 posts
Posted on 8/30/19 at 10:12 pm to
Agreed

The first time I took 1021, the only thing I was pretty sure of was finding the “debibative”.

Got an English as a first language professor 1021 2.0 and made and A-
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33948 posts
Posted on 8/30/19 at 10:14 pm to
The answer is research and potential to bring in grant money.

Revenue from undergraduate tuition typically gets spent on student services and administration. Thus, teaching isn't really a money-maker for big research universities, which is why they increasingly rely on contingent faculty -- i.e., non-tenure track faculty (i.e., instructors) and non-permanent faculty (i.e., adjuncts).

Grants are where the real money for the big research university -- most take ~50% (or more) of federal and foundation grants right off the top. Most people don't know that. For fields like biomedical research and engineering, this amounts to millions.

Thus, if a professor can bring in research dollars (or has the potential to), they don't really care if that professor can't teach well.
This post was edited on 8/30/19 at 10:19 pm
Posted by MardiGrasCajun
Dirty Coast, MS
Member since Sep 2005
5375 posts
Posted on 8/30/19 at 10:20 pm to
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Why do universities do this?


LSU hires head coaches people can't understand, too, so obviously this isn't a requirement on the job applications.
Posted by crewdepoo
Hogwarts
Member since Jan 2015
9618 posts
Posted on 8/30/19 at 10:24 pm to
I spent 5 years in engineering at lsu and never had a problem understanding any of my professors.
Posted by NolaTiger52
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2018
1862 posts
Posted on 8/30/19 at 10:25 pm to
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I spent 5 years in engineering at lsu and never had a problem understanding any of my professors.

Ever have Sunggook Park? Dude is brilliant, but 40% of the things he says I cannot understand
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
38950 posts
Posted on 8/30/19 at 10:35 pm to
This is the downside of attending a large state university. The professors are there to do research and bring in grant money.

They do not give two shits about teaching you.
Posted by TheWalrus
Member since Dec 2012
40692 posts
Posted on 8/30/19 at 10:41 pm to
There are two situations
1. The professor’s English is terrible and it’s truly unreasonable to expect someone to understand.
2. They have an “accent” but the command of the English language is reasonable.

I truly have sympathy in case 1. But most of the time it is case 2 and in this scenario, the student should make an effort to understand. In case 2, the student uses the “accent” as an excuse for laziness or failure.
Posted by Bullfrog
Institutionalized but Unevaluated
Member since Jul 2010
56369 posts
Posted on 8/30/19 at 10:44 pm to
Obviously your from Iran or something.
Posted by bad93ex
Member since Sep 2018
27329 posts
Posted on 8/30/19 at 10:49 pm to
When more than 50% of the class fails it points to #1.
Posted by Loungefly85
Lafayette
Member since Jul 2016
7930 posts
Posted on 8/30/19 at 10:58 pm to
I took a finance class with a Chinese grad student teaching and ended up passing with a 42% B. Nobody understood a single word this baw was saying and his tests were as unintelligible as he.
Posted by PeterPeterP
Member since Jan 2013
781 posts
Posted on 8/31/19 at 7:38 am to
Some of my favorite professors were hard to understand. But they wanted you to learn. It was statistics and Econ. I had a few white all American professors that could teach for shite and I understood every damn word they said.
Posted by ElderTiger
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2010
7012 posts
Posted on 8/31/19 at 7:44 am to
quote:

Why do universities hire professors that students can't understand?


Those that can, do. Those that can’t, teach.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 8/31/19 at 7:50 am to
I dropped a couple math classes where I couldn’t understand the prof
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 8/31/19 at 7:50 am to
quote:

Got an English as a first language professor 1021 2.0 and made and A-



English as a first language?

Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17245 posts
Posted on 8/31/19 at 7:55 am to
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shite, when I first got to tech, you had to stand in line. We skipped phone step and went straight to internet registration


I don't really remember when we had internet registration but maybe not at all during my first degree from LSU. You had to just sit on the phone and hit redial for an hour or two until you got through.
You missed out on the color coded mainframe computer punch cards after wandering around half of campus (multiple buildings anyway). Engineering was one color, English another, Math a 3rd color...taking a ton of classes per quarter @Tech you'd have a rainbow of cards to turn in at the end of about a 3 hour or longer walkabout.

Not advertised was the trading cards among students to coordinate professors, times, days of the week. "I'll trade ya my Lime Green Thursdays for your Dark Red Tuesdays if you'll throw in your Dark Blue Monday afternoon".
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