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re: When do you know that someone is an alcoholic?

Posted on 12/19/14 at 5:44 pm to
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
39156 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 5:44 pm to
Walt is a compulsive liar. Don't mind him
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
13365 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 5:45 pm to
quote:

He may not be now, but he will be soon.


oh so now we have soothsayers
Posted by KJason
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2008
1199 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 5:48 pm to
We have a mutual friend and the first time I met him, he referenced his TD handle within the first 5 minutes.

Then he proceeded to strike out with 2 or 3 more girls
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
11698 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 5:50 pm to
Been sober 32 yrs, sounds like he has a tad bit of a problem, drink a 1/5 a day ain't social drinking
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
13365 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 5:51 pm to
you ever think maybe he waters down his drinks?
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29736 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 5:51 pm to
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oh so now we have soothsayers


If you find common sense to be on par with soothsaying then call me fricking Nostradamus.

Dude drinks a 1/5th of liquor EVERY night. Not exactly one of the "7 Habits".
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
13365 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 5:53 pm to
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Dude drinks a 1/5th of liquor EVERY night


the evidence is circumstantial at best, before you jump through the loops of intervention

just freaking ask him how much he freaking drinks...
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
11698 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 5:55 pm to
a 1/5 is a 1/5
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15096 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 6:05 pm to
When they name their kid after the King of Beers



Dec 17, 2014 3:42 PM CST
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He could face up to 7 years in jail.

FOX 2 reports that Weisser shattered a window in the convenience store and even escaped a police chase. Later, police said, evidence linked Bud Weisser to the crime.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 6:50 pm to
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LQ is slang for Liquor Store.


Never heard of that before, I was very

But back to your post, I wouldn't stage a dramatic "intervention" but you could ask him about it.
Posted by Chair
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2013
2168 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 7:13 pm to
I'm confused. You say he can go several nights without drinking, he can go to a bar and have 1-2 drinks. But then you say he drinks a fifth every night.
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
11698 posts
Posted on 12/20/14 at 6:16 am to
My older brother,who at the time was a bad drinker,full blown drunk, named his son Chivas,
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
22677 posts
Posted on 12/20/14 at 6:26 am to
If he drinks a fifth at a time, he's got a problem. This is coming from someone who drinks a good bit. I had a friend in college like yours and he ended up jumping out of a window and killing himself.
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
6253 posts
Posted on 12/20/14 at 6:33 am to
I'd say he has a problem, and I'd also say that he knows it.

The question that I would be asking if I were you would be "What do we say or do that is going to get him to want to change?"

Because I can't really think of anything you can say or do.

If you make a deal of it, you take the risk of him abandoning you guys as friends. I predict he will choose booze over y'all.

If it were me, I might try to mention it in the form of a question... but he knows a fifth a day isn't normal...

By the way, buying it by the handle would seem more cost effective. That's what my alchoholic friend does.
Posted by DrunkerThanThou
Unfortunately Mississippi
Member since Feb 2013
2846 posts
Posted on 12/20/14 at 6:40 am to
There is such a thing as a functioning alcoholic. It sounds like your boy might fall under that category but then again he could just be going through a phase in his life. Intervention is the nuclear option, at the very least have an honest man to man conversation before you blindside him like that.
Posted by Arkla Missy
Ark-La-Miss
Member since Jan 2013
10288 posts
Posted on 12/20/14 at 6:43 am to
I've had to deal with this concerning a close relative. Imo, now isn't the time for a full on "intervention," since his drinking hasn't become disruptive. Usually, that is a last resort when people are full blown alcoholics/addicts & won't get help otherwise. However, if what you say is true about how much he drinks, there is no doubt he is dependent to some degree, and odds are will become a full blown alcoholic at some point, not to mention, his health will decline rapidly. If he's drinking that much, chances are, he's already got some liver damage, which usually has no symptoms until the damage is severe. ... My advice would be to contact a local AA/rehab or your own doctor to get the info on "When Do You Know That Someone Is An Alcoholic?" - there are actually questionnaires. ... If his drinking (that much) hasn't already started affecting him negatively, make no mistake - it will. But an all out intervention with friends & family, at this point, is too much, since you haven't even spoken to him about it. I would bring it up casually to him, away from others & just have a one-on- one, first. If he says "it's under control," it is not. Anyone who drinks a fifth a day does not have their drinking under control; they are dependent to some degree & will only get worse.

I had a good friend who I went to hs with, played tennis with (she was state champion singles), water skied with & we were in the same sorority in college. She began drinking more & more when we were in college, but no one really thought much about it since many drank a lot while there. We graduated, she married a doctor, had children, & the entire time was drinking heavily. She became a full blown, hardcore alcoholic, went to rehab several times, but would not/could not stop drinking, even for her 3 young children. ... She died in a hotel room partying at Spring Break with strangers when her liver basically exploded. ... So, yes, you should speak to your friend before things start going down hill - and they will.
This post was edited on 12/20/14 at 6:47 am
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108241 posts
Posted on 12/20/14 at 6:44 am to
If he's not doing shite to ruin his life with drinking, stay out of it. He just seems to like drinking and he really has no need to have an intervention.
Posted by MBclass83
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
9354 posts
Posted on 12/20/14 at 6:48 am to
He is an alcoholic. It might not be affecting his daily life, but it will. The damage he is doing to his liver is worrisome. If you care about this person, I would try to get him some help. I've been thru a lot of addiction crap the last few months and it is something that should be dealt with sooner than later. Best wishes.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 12/20/14 at 7:14 am to
OPs concern is admirable, but he needs to mind his own business. Guy likes to drink, so be it. It's his choice, his life, he suffers the consequences.
Posted by TigerinKorea
Member since Aug 2014
8287 posts
Posted on 12/20/14 at 7:16 am to
Didn't read the responses, but you know someone is an alcoholic when they have an uncontrollable urge to drink, and they are secretive about it, and would lie, if you ask them. You'll also know they have a problem when they are getting dwi's while doing stuff like running daily errands.
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