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re: When did the idea that we're all "created equally" become a widely held belief?
Posted on 5/3/15 at 7:35 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
Posted on 5/3/15 at 7:35 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
quote:Well... It does.
this has nothing to do with the declaration of independence
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Posted on 5/3/15 at 7:37 pm to cave canem
quote:That's not true. Einstein had elite Jewish genetics.
Albert Einstein was "worth" no more than your earlier mentioned gangbanger at birth, what separates them is what they become.
Posted on 5/3/15 at 7:38 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
Why can't we tell kids that doctors don't come from construction workers and waitresses?
Posted on 5/3/15 at 7:39 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
quote:Because that would be a lie?
Why can't we tell kids that doctors don't come from construction workers and waitresses?
Posted on 5/3/15 at 7:40 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
quote:
Einstein > random gangbanger. His life is worth more, he's more valuable, they're not equal or the same. They were not "created equally."
What you become and what you are when you are created are two totally separate things.
This post was edited on 5/3/15 at 7:41 pm
Posted on 5/3/15 at 7:41 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
quote:Oh.
That's not true. Einstein had elite Jewish genetics.
Decent troll, baw.
Posted on 5/3/15 at 7:42 pm to FT
It's a generalization, but it's a truth people need to understand.
Posted on 5/3/15 at 7:43 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
quote:Well, following that logic, if Jews are so superior, why are they always getting enslaved and holocausted?
It's a generalization, but it's a truth people need to understand.
Posted on 5/3/15 at 7:43 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
Feel like this goes hand in hand with the saying "I deserve better."
I hate when people say that, what is it that determines what one deserves?
I hate when people say that, what is it that determines what one deserves?
Posted on 5/3/15 at 7:46 pm to FT
That's a very good question.
Posted on 5/3/15 at 7:46 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
Posted on 5/3/15 at 7:47 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
quote:
I'm certainly "better" or more valuable than some 45 year old who can't hold down a job
I know its sounds strange to you but i am willing to bet plenty of people who have no job at the moment and make far less money than you are very happy or content and therefore valuable to society.
I do not discount that one should work hard and be productive but also do not give more value to those who can produce more than others.
Work Hard
Play Hard
Balance
Posted on 5/3/15 at 7:47 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
It's a philosophical statement. It means that the moment you are born your soul is the same as everyone else's at that same moment.
Posted on 5/3/15 at 7:48 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
I understand what you are saying, OP.
People (younger, mostly?) believe that the American system guarantees equality of outcomes, instead of the originally intended equality of opportunity.
People (younger, mostly?) believe that the American system guarantees equality of outcomes, instead of the originally intended equality of opportunity.
Posted on 5/3/15 at 7:52 pm to texashorn
i grew up hearing stupid shite like "we're all equal, but different" or "nobody is better than anyone else"
it's damaging to poor kids, because they dream too big
it's damaging to poor kids, because they dream too big
Posted on 5/3/15 at 7:54 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
I hate "you have no right to judge me" too.
Posted on 5/3/15 at 7:54 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
Define equal and the context.
Posted on 5/3/15 at 8:04 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
adjective
1.
being the same in quantity, size, degree, or value.
The context is comparing people to others.
I realize the title probably threw some people off.
Posted on 5/3/15 at 8:06 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
quote:
it's damaging to poor kids, because they dream too big
Poor kid's should never think they can get ahead in today's world. Be content with your lot you dirty scum....
Posted on 5/3/15 at 8:13 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
All men were created equal, but some men more equal than others....
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