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re: What schools would ST. George affect?
Posted on 1/1/14 at 11:02 pm to LT
Posted on 1/1/14 at 11:02 pm to LT
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Sid gonna shut the sherif down? Where is he going to patrol? Central and Zachary only?
The plan is to merge BRPD and EBRSO. Patrolling the rural areas is expensive (per capita) and I suspect he'd prefer Zachary and Central get their own police departments if they aren't going to pony up for an extra dedicated tax. That may not hold true for the St. George area since it is denser.
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Posted on 1/1/14 at 11:02 pm to LT
That link proves nothing for what you have claimed. It's sad that you even believe it does.
I'm out.
I'm out.
Posted on 1/1/14 at 11:06 pm to LT
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LINKY LINKY
I'm mad because you know not what you speak of.
I don't see your point. I suspect you have no idea how any of this works.
Posted on 1/1/14 at 11:17 pm to Asgard Device
If I don't know how this works, please enlighten me.
The sherif is its own entity. It is not part of the Baton Rouge city budget nor will it be included in the st George city budget.
There will not be a line item showing the amount paid to the sherif on st George's budget because it isn't a city expense. That was one of the keys to yours or the other cat's assertions that taxes would go up.
Where am I wrong?
Posted on 1/1/14 at 11:19 pm to Asgard Device
If I have three kids in the EBR schools, and all are ranked among the best in the state, (Wham, Sherwood Middle Magnet and BRHMS) and they are thriving, and I am satisfied, why would it be in my best interest to support a new district which I believe would be inferior (especially HS) to my current situation?
Posted on 1/1/14 at 11:23 pm to LT
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If I don't know how this works, please enlighten me.
Fair enough.
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The sherif is its own entity. It is not part of the Baton Rouge city budget nor will it be included in the st George city budget.
Here's where you're wrong. People in the city of Baton Rouge pay the same amount for EBRSO as people in the proposed city of St George do now. Yet, they don't receive the same amount of services.
This post was edited on 1/1/14 at 11:32 pm
Posted on 1/1/14 at 11:26 pm to LT
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There will not be a line item showing the amount paid to the sherif on st George's budget because it isn't a city expense.
Where am I wrong?
For starters, there IS a line item on the SG city budget to pay the sheriff $3 million.
At least read the SG budget in the link I provided before you try to portray yourself as knowledgeable concerning SG's finances.
ETA: I suspect you fit the description Rush Limbaugh uses to describe what is wrong with our democracy, "a low information voter."
This post was edited on 1/1/14 at 11:29 pm
Posted on 1/1/14 at 11:38 pm to LSURussian
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For starters, there IS a line item on the SG city budget to pay the sheriff $3 million.
At least read the SG budget in the link I provided before you try to portray yourself as knowledgeable concerning SG's finances.
I see what they're getting at. Even though the money is spread evenly throughout the parish for police protection (with people in BR city paying a little more), the tax collected for EBRSO is a dedicated tax, where as the tax for BRPD is largely from non-dedicated sources.
This means St George will now pay significantly less for police protection since it will no longer contribute to the general fund, yet they naively expect to receive the same amount o service.
So, I'm assuming they plan on having the city of Baton Rouge subsidize their EBRSO patrol by paying the same amount they do +paying for BRPD. I would suspect that the millages would need to be adjusted parish wide to differentiate between people who live in the city and those who don't. Or the two forces will need to be consolidated. At which case, the EBRSO would be underfunded because it would lose all the funding that is currently allocated to the BRPD through the general fund but will now be tasked with patrolling the city of Baton Rouge.
It's a childish tactic, but it could be a pretty legit issue.
This post was edited on 1/1/14 at 11:43 pm
Posted on 1/1/14 at 11:42 pm to Asgard Device
I find it funny that shite towns like bunkie, Jena, Winfield, and mangham can run their own towns, but SG residents would be too incompetent.
EBR has been fricking up for so long, it's time they had to face the music.
EBR has been fricking up for so long, it's time they had to face the music.
Posted on 1/1/14 at 11:42 pm to Asgard Device
The majority of the sheriff's expenses is for running the parish prison and acting as tax collector for all property taxes, not for patrolling the streets and catching bad guys.
Posted on 1/1/14 at 11:44 pm to Mahootney
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EBR has been fricking up for so long, it's time they had to face the music.
SG will still be in EBR. That won't change. What music will EBR have to face?
Posted on 1/1/14 at 11:46 pm to Mahootney
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but SG residents would be too incompetent.
You are the only poster in this thread who has said anything about SG residents being incompetent.
Posted on 1/1/14 at 11:48 pm to LSURussian
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The majority of the sheriff's expenses is for running the parish prison and acting as tax collector for all property taxes, not for patrolling the streets and catching bad guy
There are still significant costs associated with having deputies patrol and detectives assigned to the unincorporated areas and all the overhead associated with that, so these are costs that should only be borne by residents of unincorporated areas - although I recognize that north baton rouge is probably pretty expensive to police relative to the tax receipts it generates. You can't write enough inspection sticker tickets to compensate for that.
Still you're dealing with marginal costs applied to already existing police forces. In the case of having a new police force, there would be a lot of inefficiencies.
This post was edited on 1/1/14 at 11:52 pm
Posted on 1/1/14 at 11:53 pm to LSURussian
quote:Long look in the mirror. Zachary, central, sg all wanting out. It's their own fault. City proper is crap.
SG will still be in EBR. That won't change. What music will EBR have to face?
Posted on 1/1/14 at 11:56 pm to Mahootney
Those cities are still in EBR. WTF are you talking about? SG will still be in EBR parish no matter what.
Baton Rouge is the only city in La. with a AAA credit rating, the highest credit rating a city can have. The finances of BR are in excellent shape.
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City proper is crap.
Baton Rouge is the only city in La. with a AAA credit rating, the highest credit rating a city can have. The finances of BR are in excellent shape.
This post was edited on 1/1/14 at 11:59 pm
Posted on 1/1/14 at 11:59 pm to LSURussian
quote:comeon. You're smarter than this. Try deducing the meaning instead of focusing on the literal phrasing or semantics.
You are the only poster in this thread who has said anything about SG residents being incompetent.
If shite towns can function, why can't sg? Mystery budget issues? Lack of school accommodations. If little shite towns can make it work.... So could sg.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 12:02 am to Mahootney
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I find it funny that shite towns like bunkie, Jena, Winfield, and mangham can run their own towns
If St. George becomes anything like these towns then it would be a step backwards.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 12:04 am to Mahootney
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comeon. You're smarter than this
If I were a liar I'd say the same about you.
No one has said SG can't do it. All anyone has said, me included, is that the organizers are lying when they claim no new taxes will be needed to run the new city and the new school system.
They lie about it because they know if they tell voters that property taxes and possibly sales taxes will likely increase, the voters will be less inclined to vote for the new city.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 12:06 am to LSURussian
quote:As in EBR school district. Does everyone have to spell everything out for you? Or are you so focused on trying to "win" a debate that you don't actually understand the point?
Those cities are still in EBR. WTF are you talking about? SG will still be in EBR parish no matter what.
quote:How is their school system?
Baton Rouge is the only city in La. with a AAA credit rating,
quote:Yup. Everything in BR is just peachy. Gotcha.... Ok. Nothing to see here folks. Just move along.
The finances of BR are in excellent shape.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 12:10 am to Mahootney
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Baton Rouge is the only city in La. with a AAA credit rating,
How is their school system?
The school system is separate and has nothing to do with the formation of the new city of St. George.
The new leaders of "St. George" have not been honest about anything. They've been called out and, for some reason, people are angry about getting their bubble burst.
Ultimately taxes will be increased.
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