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re: What schools would ST. George affect?
Posted on 1/1/14 at 7:43 pm to Asgard Device
Posted on 1/1/14 at 7:43 pm to Asgard Device
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I'm not sure Bodi and Lionel are being honest in saying that incorporating helps get the school system through the legislature. If it still requires a constitutional amendment then I think you still need 2/3rds vote in the legislature and a statewide vote to form a new school system.
I can't take seriously the Bodi White honesty bashing, if the alternative is to stand proudly alongside the honest folks like Kip, BRPD Union, Bernard Taylor, and the metro council.
The funding would have to be passed in the state legislature, but the system already created by the measure that passed this year. It becomes active as soon as the funding mechanism is in place.
Honestly though, I've only heard you and the Russian try to poke holes in the SG budget, but not a single workable solution to fix the ridiculous situation we're in. EBR neglected us but was happy to soak up the tax dollars. Show me a better way that's actually feasible. Love to hear hear the correct answer for our schools and the tax-to-service discrepancy in the unincorporated area.
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Posted on 1/1/14 at 7:56 pm to Huck Finn
You won't hear anything back. He didn't respond to the statement I made earlier refuting his claims
Posted on 1/1/14 at 7:58 pm to WhoDats10
well I hope this St george this falls through. Dont want brmhs to be shown up by a private school.
Posted on 1/1/14 at 8:06 pm to Huck Finn
quote:You realize SG is not leaving "EBR", right? All of the EBR taxes would still be paid by SG citizens.
EBR neglected us
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I've only heard you and the Russian try to poke holes in the SG budget,
"Try"? The budget is full of unicorn farts. Do the math.
Posted on 1/1/14 at 8:14 pm to LSURussian
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All of the EBR taxes would still be paid by SG citizens.
Typing from my phone. BR was intended. Talking about the services we pay for twice and receive once. Not to mention the school discrepancy I mentioned three times to no response (11 in BR proper to the 1 in the unincorporated area ). That's neglect.
Sorry, didn't see the unicorn fart line item. Was that next to a Bernard Taylor technology allowance?
Posted on 1/1/14 at 8:17 pm to LSURussian
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Of course it would take a vote. But if you are claiming the leaders have said new taxes might have to be proposed, please provide a link. I have not seen or read even one statement by them that additional taxes might be needed.
On what are you basing the need to raise taxes? You seem to be pulling this out of your arse.
Right now the unincorporated area surpluses about $50 million to the city proper. We are already paying for our own fire and policing. Where are the additional $50 million dollars in expenses coming from?
According to the evil monsters who dare to democratically change a shitty situation, there will be a $20 million dollar city surplus, yearly. These same awful people who love their children, are claiming that there will be a $30 million dollar surplus for the school district, yearly. That is more than enough money to bond for new schools.
You talk about bussing issues in the new school district. On day 1, some kids may have to ride a ways. But once the new schools are built that will be corrected. That's the plan...
All this talk about schools is one thing. What really grinds my gears is the fact that brpd and brfd are being funded by us and they don't service us.
Should the people of Wataon be forced to pay for the Denham springs fire and police? Of course not! But these jive arse turkeys in BR are telling me yes with a straight face... All while telling me they're doing me a favor.
It breaks down simply.
One group is paying for shite they aren't getting. One group is getting shite they aren't paying for. The ones paying are sick of the bullshite. The ones being subsidized are scared they'll have to pay their own way.
Posted on 1/1/14 at 8:41 pm to WhoDats10
this is because white parents dont want their kids to go to school with black children . this will screw over baton rouge high, glasgow, sherwood magnet and others
Posted on 1/1/14 at 8:44 pm to RyseofRome
Oh, then there's racism. Guess which side just got desperate?
Posted on 1/1/14 at 8:48 pm to RyseofRome
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this is because white parents dont want their kids to go to school with black children . this will screw over baton rouge high, glasgow, sherwood magnet and others
Maybe this is what they're worried about
Posted on 1/1/14 at 8:48 pm to LT
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You seem to be pulling this out of your arse
Right back at you.
The proposed expenditure budget for SG is $60 million. LINK
Study the budget just a little before you make up numbers.
Where is the reimbursement money for legacy costs SG would inherit? No money for new roads. Only $13 million for ALL of the DPW functions. One bridge replacement costs more than that. No money for road construction of any kind.
$3 million for annual police protection via the EBR sheriff. The city of BR has a city police budget of $84 million for 2013. SG would have roughly 1/3 (33%) the population of BR and it is almost the same geographical size of BR but would only need police protection = to less than 4% of the costs of BR? That doesn't even pass the smell test.
The proposed budget is a fairy tale.
Stop being so emotional and use your head.
Posted on 1/1/14 at 8:51 pm to LT
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there will be a $20 million dollar city surplus, yearly
Not unless you still want to defer to the City-Parish government for schools and police protection.. and even then that's a stretch. It's kind of disturbing that these people will be entrusted with handling budget matters, especially given how nebulous the spending will be. Say what you want about BR and the clowns that occupy the council, but Kip Holden has been a great budget administrator and Baton Rouge has the highest credit rating of any municipality in the state.
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What really grinds my gears is the fact that brpd and brfd are being funded by us and they don't service us.
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It breaks down simply. One group is paying for shite they aren't getting. One group is getting shite they aren't paying for. The ones paying are sick of the bullshite.
Right. Let me get this straight. You think you're going to get a new school system, a new city government, and a new police department all without having to pay more?
Sounds totally realistic.
It doesn't bother you at all that you're already being lied to and gamed?This post was edited on 1/1/14 at 8:57 pm
Posted on 1/1/14 at 9:05 pm to LSURussian
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Where is the reimbursement money for legacy costs SG would inherit? No money for new roads. Only $13 million for ALL of the DPW functions. One bridge replacement costs more than that. No money for road construction of any kind.
What legacy costs? Be specific.... Nothing from your arse like before... Maybe examples of CITY legacy costs carried by central and Zachary from br when they incorporated. For dpw, much of those costs are covered by the parish bucket of money.
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$3 million for annual police protection via the EBR sheriff. The city of BR has a city police budget of $84 million for 2013. SG would have roughly 1/3 (33%) the population of BR and it is almost the same geographical size of BR but would only need police protection = to less than 4% of the costs of BR? That doesn't even pass the smell test
Did you read the part of my post stating we all ready pay for policing and fire? The $3 million is in addition to what we already pay. Again, there is a parish budget that we pay into for these services.
That is a city budget. That doesn't include what we get from the parish budget.
I don't think you know what you're talking about. I may owe you an apology for saying you were pulling out of your arse. I'm sorry, I thought you were lying. That isn't the case... You're just terribly uninformed.
Posted on 1/1/14 at 9:08 pm to LSURussian
Russian,
St. George is covered by the EBR parish police currently. The additional monies would be to bolster the existing police coverage and provide for a St. George Police Chief only. There will not be a St. George police department.
As far as legacy costs go, the leaders of St. George have said that they will cover the appropriate legacy costs. Although I don't see a line item in the budget for this, there is a statement in the budget reading "EXCESS REVENUE OVER EXPENDITURES TO BE USED TO SATISFY LEGACY COSTS AND ANY BONDED INDEBTEDNESS". You can choose to disbelieve this if you wish. Personally, I'm done trusting the old guard of BR.
St. George is covered by the EBR parish police currently. The additional monies would be to bolster the existing police coverage and provide for a St. George Police Chief only. There will not be a St. George police department.
As far as legacy costs go, the leaders of St. George have said that they will cover the appropriate legacy costs. Although I don't see a line item in the budget for this, there is a statement in the budget reading "EXCESS REVENUE OVER EXPENDITURES TO BE USED TO SATISFY LEGACY COSTS AND ANY BONDED INDEBTEDNESS". You can choose to disbelieve this if you wish. Personally, I'm done trusting the old guard of BR.
Posted on 1/1/14 at 9:11 pm to Cantstandya
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St. George is covered by the EBR parish police currently. The additional monies would be to bolster the existing police coverage and provide for a St. George Police Chief only.
But I thought part of the reason for splitting was because you claimed that you were paying for police protection that you weren't getting. You're still going to pay into the City-Parish system for police protection and then on top of that you're going to pay extra. Sounds fun. Maybe you can get some tanks.. at my expense, of course.
Posted on 1/1/14 at 9:11 pm to LT
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What legacy costs
Never mind.
I'm not going to waste my time teaching you something as basic as legacy costs when there is any kind of organizational split up.
I stopped reading your post right there. It's obvious you're clueless when it comes to finances.
Have a great year!
Posted on 1/1/14 at 9:13 pm to LT
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One group is paying for shite they aren't getting. One group is getting shite they aren't paying for. The ones paying are sick of the bullshite. The ones being subsidized are scared they'll have to pay their own way.
This
Posted on 1/1/14 at 9:17 pm to Cantstandya
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St. George is covered by the EBR parish police currently.
There is no such thing as "EBR parish police."
There is the BR city police, the city constable and the sheriff.
quote:But you trust someone who tells you there is such a thing as "EBR parish police" which doesn't exist?
Personally, I'm done trusting the old guard of BR.
The $60 million budgeted probably would cover just the legacy costs. But, gullible people believe what they want to believe.
Posted on 1/1/14 at 9:20 pm to Asgard Device
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But I thought part of the reason for splitting was because you claimed that you were paying for police protection that you weren't getting.
Yes, BRPD.
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Maybe you can get some tanks.. at my expense, of course.
You're making yourself sound really stupid. Take notes from Russian on how to have an intellectual debate.
Posted on 1/1/14 at 9:22 pm to LSURussian
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There is no such thing as "EBR parish police."
Quite obvious that I was referring to the Sheriff's office. My apologies.
Posted on 1/1/14 at 9:39 pm to Cantstandya
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But I thought part of the reason for splitting was because you claimed that you were paying for police protection that you weren't getting.
Yes, BRPD.
I'm at a loss for words. It's like dealing with children. It's clear that you have no idea what you're talking about or how the EBR city-parish government works.
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