re: What is the end goal of the BLM movement?

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Correct

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The swastica wasn't a symbol of hate until the nazis appropriated it.

BLM may have been intended to be one thing, but that doesn't mean it isn't known for another.

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I'm black. I don't think that. If you wanted to, I believe you could easily find other black people that don't judge the entire white community by the actions of a few.

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Yet I've seen BLM used to spew anti-white hate messages.

It seems like the radicals have appropriated BLM and are using it to push hate. Smart people would distance themselves from it before it gets worse.

There are other ways to show solidarity that aren't associated with hate.

an end to murder? seems ambitious

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It seems like the radicals have appropriated BLM and are using it to push hate. Smart people would distance themselves from it before it gets worse.

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Yes I I've already touched on this. I already see the two groups, the peaceful supporters and the radicals, as two distinct groups. They've distanced themselves by their actions. To me, that's obvious and I see no value in any denouncement. In fact it may only encourage them to act out more. They want attention. A denouncement is attention. I understand that everyone is not going to see it that way.

Like I said, there are many supporters that live and lead every day by example. If I'm a supporter of BLM, I don't need to go marching to feel that I'm advancing the cause. But you're not going to see me or those people that think like me on the evening news because that's not compelling TV.

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It boggles my mind that the leaders of BLM didn't understand the importance of branding and moral inclusiveness when coming up with the name of their movement.

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A thousand times, this.

I will also say this, BLM likes to focus on police brutality, but go about it completely the wrong way.

I may be wrong, but I personally feel like there is a really big problem with law enforcement. There are too too many crooked bad cops out there, and many times people get unfairly targeted and harassed by police. Not only this, but there should be more accountability in the system as well.

Unfortunately, this point gets terribbly misconstrued. The narrative is now all police officers are out to kill black people. The way people make it seem you would think this was the second coming of the holocaust.

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What is the end goal of the BLM movement?

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A communist one world government.

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I may be wrong, but I personally feel like there is a really big problem with law enforcement. There are too too many crooked bad cops out there, and many times people get unfairly targeted and harassed by police. Not only this, but there should be more accountability in the system as well.

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I agree with that but I don't hear this as a central message. BLM seems to believe police violence is overwhelmingly about race. If it is about more general reform then staying on message about the specific reforms being requested would be the first step.

For example, I do think that there is at least an appearance of nepotism when the same prosecutors who rely upon police are charged with investigating and potentially prosecuting police. That's a common sense improvement that would help prosecutors in impossible situations and improve reform by enabling other (prosecutors who don't regularly rely upon those same police) to investigate and/or charge police who are accused or guilty of crimes.

But the blanket assumption that any violence between police and minorities is racial in motivation is just not a productive focus for a major movement. While there are cases of police misconduct that police can immediately turn around and acknowledge were criminal I have yet to hear BLM as a movement acknowledge cases where the minority who ended up shot or worse was responsible for his own bad outcome.

There also isn't a real discussion from BLM leaders I'm aware of that productively talks about the links between violence in a community and violence from police. Yes, black men are being killed disproportionately. I believe some of these incidents were affected by race. But, these things don't happen in a vacuum. The violence committed by black men is also disproportionate.

They want your house, your car, and your daughter. And they feel like they deserve it. Because slavery 150 years ago.

money my man money, when in doubt follow the money, its all about distraction toward the insignificant, and against logic and objective facts, and toward self benefit...