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re: What is the end goal of the BLM movement?
Posted on 7/11/16 at 2:08 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
Posted on 7/11/16 at 2:08 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
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The other thing that Dr. King seemed to understand that the BLM movement doesnt seem to get is that in order to create change, you need to make allies, not just enemies. If you never reach across the aisle and work with your opposition, change will never come
I think there are those of the BLM movement that absolutely understand this sentiment. BLM is a plea for inclusion, not exclusion or separation. The understood meaning of BLM is supposed to be BLM (AS WELL), not BLM (more).
A relatively small group of bad people have misappropriated BLM and operate under its guise to push a segregation or hate agenda. It's always the vocal minority of idiots that make the whole look bad.
Posted on 7/11/16 at 2:10 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
Their goal is to help get Crooked Hillary elected so they can get free shite.
Posted on 7/11/16 at 2:12 pm to Goldrush25
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A relatively small group of bad people have misappropriated BLM and operate under its guise to push a segregation or hate agenda. It's always the vocal minority of idiots that make the whole look bad.
Maybe I missed it, but I haven't seen them rebuke or disassociate themselves from this vocal minority. Rather, their lack of such makes it appear that they embrace anyone that will acknowledge them.
Posted on 7/11/16 at 2:12 pm to LSUwag
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What exactly is the systemic problem?
idk if its a fixable problem or if you can necessarily blame the system per se but when someone is born into a place where no one cares if you go to school or succeed in life, most kids (under the age of 21) will not make a conscious choice to better themselves and make it out of poverty. They end up with a rap sheet before they are even considered adults and theyre lives are essentially ruined before they truly begin.
I get the argument that "they are doing it to themselves". but i was born into a middle class family with plenty of structure and support and still had difficulty making myself go to class my freshman year of college. I eventually matured and wanted to be successful in life and luckily I still had that opportunity. People born in the situation I described above probably eventually come to the realization that they too want success but by the tie that arrives, they are in so deep that it isn't feasible.
Again, maybe its not the systems fault, but it is a problem.
Posted on 7/11/16 at 2:13 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
$$$, black supremacy and a completely black and Latino America.
Posted on 7/11/16 at 2:14 pm to Goldrush25
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BLM is a plea for inclusion, not exclusion or separation.
Disagree. Nothing about the movement says inclusion. It's all about appealing to their special needs.
You can't be a politician and speak to the American people. Today, you have to address all the fringe, splinter groups that demand attention.
We aren't Americans. We're all hyphenated drama queens.
Posted on 7/11/16 at 2:17 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
Before there is any real change in the police/black community relationship, there must be a complete overhaul of the black community. This whole culture with no family values, relying on the government, no personal accountability, and no respect of laws or authority will have to be changed. I don't see this ever happening. They have dug themselves into a deep hole that they will likely never get out of, and could possibly drag the rest of us into it with them.
It's a sad situation that probably is not completely their fault, and I just don't see how it is fixable. I hope I'm wrong, but how can an entire population of people completely change their ways?
It's a sad situation that probably is not completely their fault, and I just don't see how it is fixable. I hope I'm wrong, but how can an entire population of people completely change their ways?
Posted on 7/11/16 at 2:20 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Disagree. Nothing about the movement says inclusion.
This. The gay rights parade is a perfect example.
If the BLM movement had anything to do with inclusion they would be stading arm-in-arm with them because both groups ultimately have the same goal. Instead, they are confronting the gay community about "anti-black" sentiments they've made up and demanding they take a back seat to BLM. That's not inclusive in any way, shape or form.
This post was edited on 7/11/16 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 7/11/16 at 2:22 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
Was recently thinking about this. They have no laws they really want to change and the way they protest is poor.
Posted on 7/11/16 at 2:23 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
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What is the end goal of the BLM movement?
Whatever Soros has in mind
Posted on 7/11/16 at 2:26 pm to REB BEER
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This whole culture with no family values, relying on the government, no personal accountability, and no respect of laws or authority
I find this o be a very large issue that is ignored in this whole issue. A lot of this could be avoided with compliance and respect for authority, which sound like the white man saying lay down and take it but its really not.
The issue with compliance is many in the poorest communities have a rap sheet and cant get a legit job if they wanted to, thus they have to sell drugs or something to make money. so to them, if they comply, they go to jail. complying and fighting the "wrongful arrest" in court doesnt work because they are breaking the law.
The other issue is that the cases that the BLM movement has rallied behind are cases involving people that mainstream America has trouble feeling sorry for. (whether that is right or wrong). during the civil rights movement in the 60's, they purposely put upstanding citizens with no arrest backgrounds in the line of fire so to speak to show that the laws were unfair even to those the "play by the rules".
Posted on 7/11/16 at 2:29 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
They would be the dog that caught the car. There is no thought to an end-game, only agitation and justice.
However, what they really want is for all white men to have all of their money and property confiscated and redistributed to them, be made into slaves, or dead. That's what their agenda really is. It's not about equality, it's about flipping the power switch. They want all white people gone. They want to have their own power without any interference from white people, but with the backing of white money.
However, what they really want is for all white men to have all of their money and property confiscated and redistributed to them, be made into slaves, or dead. That's what their agenda really is. It's not about equality, it's about flipping the power switch. They want all white people gone. They want to have their own power without any interference from white people, but with the backing of white money.
Posted on 7/11/16 at 2:30 pm to kingbob
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However, what they really want is for all white men to have all of their money and property confiscated and redistributed to them, be made into slaves, or dead. That's what their agenda really is. It's not about equality, it's about flipping the power switch. They want all white people gone. They want to have their own power without any interference from white people, but with the backing of white money.
Posted on 7/11/16 at 2:31 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
is anyone in this thread Black? I truly would like to know the opinion from someone who might have a different perspective on the situation.
Posted on 7/11/16 at 2:32 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
quote:$$$$, aka, reparations.
What is the end goal of the BLM movement?
Posted on 7/11/16 at 2:33 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
As of right now disrupt both the RNC and the DNC along with as much chaos as they can.
This post was edited on 7/11/16 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 7/11/16 at 2:34 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
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They end up with a rap sheet before they are even considered adults and theyre lives are essentially ruined before they truly begin.
Criminal records just don't randomly happen. They occur because you are doing things that are illegal and you are stupid enough to get caught.
Police arrest a lot of people because how how they chose to interact with the police. We've all had encounters with the police. The vast majority have ended with no action being taken.
Why do you think that Blacks have a different experience? Maybe its because in general terms, Blacks act differently than other racial categories. All you need to do is take a look at Youtube videos of McDonalds or convenience store fights and it becomes quite evident that the black community has some serious problems going on. You just don't see events like happen nearly as often with other races.
I hate to use anecdotal evidence to prove a point but, it is pretty obvious in my humble opinion. This is not a police problem it is a Black problem.
Posted on 7/11/16 at 2:35 pm to RB10
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If the BLM movement had anything to do with inclusion they would be stading arm-in-arm with them because both groups ultimately have the same goal. Instead, they are confronting the gay community about "anti-black" sentiments they've made up and demanding they take a back seat to BLM. That's not inclusive in any way, shape or form.
Like I said, those are people that have violated the spirit of the movement and have misappropriated it for their own hateful purpose.
Why do you feel that represents the millions of other people that aren't out doing those things? It's not either they're all good or they're all bad.
Posted on 7/11/16 at 2:39 pm to Goldrush25
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Like I said, those are people that have violated the spirit of the movement and have misappropriated it for their own hateful purpose.
Why do you feel that represents the millions of other people that aren't out doing those things? It's not either they're all good or they're all bad.
So the group that was invited to have a float as special guests were a radical sect of the organization? If so, why hasn't the conservative side come out and denounced them? Why haven't the leaders made it clear that these "radical" arms aren't really a part of what BLM is?
Think about what you're saying.....
This post was edited on 7/11/16 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 7/11/16 at 2:41 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
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is anyone in this thread Black? I truly would like to know the opinion from someone who might have a different perspective on the situation
I'm obviously not black, but my wife has some well-to-do black friends, and they still think they are victims. She says they still vote democrat and think there is nothing wrong with buying food stamp cards from poor people for 50 cents on the dollar.
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