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re: What is the end goal of the BLM movement?
Posted on 7/11/16 at 3:07 pm to RB10
Posted on 7/11/16 at 3:07 pm to RB10
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Thats a dumb statement, if they released a statement denouncing this act or that act as not part of the BLM movement but no media outlets will publish it or give it air time because its a boring story that doesnt create ratings then it doesnt exist? thats lazy.
Sorry you don't like true statements. Media driven opinions are what the entire free world relies on now, that is a fact.
We'l have to agree to disagree.
I think the media is a large part of the problem. they dont report the whole truth, just the story line that will create the most ratings. All im saying is you cant say why havent I heard them denounce X, Y, or Z. They might have, the media just didnt publicize it because it was boring.
you seem to believe that if they wanted it out there, it would be out there. and that is a fair opinion, I just dont think the media works that way.
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Posted on 7/11/16 at 3:10 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
There is no systematic problem. It's real simple , don't break the law and your chances of having any confrontation with police pretty much become nonexistent. Get a job, raise your children, pay your bills and taxes, strive to better yourself and its amazing how things start to go right in your life.
Posted on 7/11/16 at 3:10 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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TbirdSpur2010
You Uncle Tom fool.
Posted on 7/11/16 at 3:11 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
Very well said.
Posted on 7/11/16 at 3:12 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
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I think the media is a large part of the problem. they dont report the whole truth, just the story line that will create the most ratings.
I never said they weren't, never said they did, and agree 100%.
This doesn't change the fact that society is driven by the media, for the most part.
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All im saying is you cant say why havent I heard them denounce X, Y, or Z. They might have, the media just didnt publicize it because it was boring.
you seem to believe that if they wanted it out there, it would be out there. and that is a fair opinion, I just dont think the media works that way.
Then show me where they, and by they I mean the leaders of BLM, have. Don't give me they "may" have denounced it. If they did, there is a record of it somewhere. Until then, I'll stick with the belief that they haven't.
You know why? Because we don't even know who the leaders are, which is a problem in an of itself.
Posted on 7/11/16 at 3:13 pm to RB10
alright I'll concede that im arguing a null point
Posted on 7/11/16 at 3:15 pm to slackster
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You Uncle Tom fool.
#UnWoke
Posted on 7/11/16 at 3:17 pm to slackster
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With all due respect, this is asinine. Black on black crime is wholly irrelevant to unjustified police killings, but when you call yourself Black Lives Matter, you're going to rightfully be questioned about statistics like black on black crime. The name is absurd because in a literal sense it is patently false.
That is very true, and to be honest. I do say BLM. But for a completely different reason than most. I happen to love my Blackness, wouldnt change it for anything in the world. (Except maybe Lifetime Free ChikfilA
) I genuinely want to see better for my race. It hurts my heart honestly, to see us dying at astronomical rates. Getting locked up at astronimical rates. Most people say "its all whiteys fault" But Im a strong proponent of self responsibility. The fault lies with us. It really pains me to see so many young folks be so stupid. Most dont care, but me personally. I care.
Posted on 7/11/16 at 3:19 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
Looting liquor stores for as much grape drink and black & milds as possible
Posted on 7/11/16 at 3:23 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
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idk if its a fixable problem or if you can necessarily blame the system per se but when someone is born into a place where no one cares if you go to school or succeed in life, most kids (under the age of 21) will not make a conscious choice to better themselves and make it out of poverty.
Plenty people care. Problem is teachers, coaches, church leaders, scholarships, TOPS, etc, can only do so much, especially when teachers and coaches try to teach kids how to be respectful and they get fired or sued.
I'd bet most kids that go through the shitty public schools here in Baton Rouge couldn't name that one teacher or coach at their school that was the ball buster that you learned the hard way not to mess with. Every private school has one of those, if not more.
Until black parents start caring, it won't make a bit of difference. The problem is poor parenting, and lack of fathers.
A poor black person is given every opportunity to succeed at life that a poor white person is given. There's plenty of white trash out there as well. Good parents that want better for their children despite not having the finances to give them better, push for them to do the right things throughout life and push them to succeed where they didn't.
Too many black parents would rather teach their kids how to get an EBT card, a free phone and whatever other shite the gov't gives them to live, as opposed to trying in school and being respectful members of society. You can have a GED in this state and work your way up to making over $80k/year at the local plants if you work your arse off. But that's too much work, and it's easier to just complain.
So if you ask me what the problem is, it's lack of parenting, and lack of punishment/respect at school.
I think we should give the young repeat small time criminals sentences to serve in the military for 2 years, where they will get paid and get all the benefits of being in teh military, options to stay longer and get more benefits, or go to jail for a long time. Hey little shite who's been arrested 10 times and we've had enough of, your sentence is 2 years in the Army, or you can go to jail for 10 years without parole. You frick up or quit in those 2 years, you go to jail for 10 years, no parole.
If they can't learn respect in the military and get out a better person, than there's no hope.
Posted on 7/11/16 at 3:28 pm to TeddyPadillac
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I think we should give the young repeat small time criminals sentences to serve in the military for 2 years, where they will get paid and get all the benefits of being in teh military, options to stay longer and get more benefits, or go to jail for a long time. Hey little shite who's been arrested 10 times and we've had enough of, your sentence is 2 years in the Army, or you can go to jail for 10 years without parole. You frick up or quit in those 2 years, you go to jail for 10 years, no parole.
If they can't learn respect in the military and get out a better person, than there's no hope.
This is a great idea but it has to hinge on the choice. you have a choice to not join the army and go to jail if you'd like. Otherwise you just have a modern form of slavery so to speak.
Posted on 7/11/16 at 3:34 pm to Goldrush25
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The understood meaning of BLM is supposed to be BLM (AS WELL), not BLM (more).
For some people I think that is true. There are clearly vocal people attached to the movement for whom this is not.
It boggles my mind that the leaders of BLM didn't understand the importance of branding and moral inclusiveness when coming up with the name of their movement.
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A relatively small group of bad people have misappropriated BLM and operate under its guise to push a segregation or hate agenda. It's always the vocal minority of idiots that make the whole look bad.
A general failure of the movement leaders to understand what to name their organization (All Lives Matter instead of Black Lives Matter) and what to chant (No Justice No Peace carries an implicit threat of violence) is a pretty central failure, not a peripheral or radical minority issue.
There clearly are some incidents where people were killed who should not have been, but the movement leaders haven't shown much in the way of comprehensible leadership or common sense. At least not if their goal is a more just and equal society that appeals to the broadest possible number of people.
Posted on 7/11/16 at 3:34 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
To get on TV.
Posted on 7/11/16 at 3:36 pm to RB10
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Show a well-organized and unified front and more people will get on board with the idea that BLM isn't a bunch of uninformed attention seekers. Until then, you're letting people form their own opinions based on what they can see, which is chaotic protests often couple with violence
Again, I would say those few people doing those things don't represent BLM according to what I believe the spirit of the movement to be.
If you are of the other belief that BLM stands for special treatment, violence and unrest, then you will use whatever hits the evening news as confirmation of your beliefs. I don't quite know how you reconcile that idea with the millions of people that support the movement who are able to convey their thoughts in a conscientious and peaceful manner, but whatever. Just because they aren't the ones creating the ruckus doesn't mean they don't exist.
If you want to find those people you can find them. If you don't care well, you'll form your opinions based on the evening news. And that's absolutely your right to do so. But it's an opinion based on limited information, at best.
Posted on 7/11/16 at 3:40 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
Brittany Packnett, I'm pretty sure this is the girl who was leading the chants on Saturday night, being loud and annoying.
“They intentionally provoked peaceful people, pushing them from lawful spaces with riot shields and pointing guns in faces,” said Brittany Packnett, an activist from the St. Louis area who rose to national prominence during the 2014 protests in Ferguson, Missouri, and joined the protests in Baton Rouge on Friday. “Youth organizers and members of the Baton Rouge community have been peaceful, organized and determined.” --LINK
“They intentionally provoked peaceful people, pushing them from lawful spaces with riot shields and pointing guns in faces,” said Brittany Packnett, an activist from the St. Louis area who rose to national prominence during the 2014 protests in Ferguson, Missouri, and joined the protests in Baton Rouge on Friday. “Youth organizers and members of the Baton Rouge community have been peaceful, organized and determined.” --LINK
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Posted on 7/11/16 at 3:45 pm to QJenk
If u want to run for office, let me know and I'll support you. We make things difficult on both sides instead of using our brains to address issues.
Posted on 7/11/16 at 3:45 pm to Goldrush25
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Just because they aren't the ones creating the ruckus doesn't mean they don't exist.
Seriously, you couldn't be more hypocritical.
There isn't one shred of proof that these people aren't prominent members of BLM. You're using "may" as if it proves something to push your narrative.
This post was edited on 7/11/16 at 3:47 pm
Posted on 7/11/16 at 3:48 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
There are no laws or policies limiting the rights or freedoms of black people. There are, however, laws and policies insuring black people get a head start. The only thing holding back the black community is themselves.
Posted on 7/11/16 at 3:55 pm to RB10
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There isn't one shred of proof that these people aren't prominent members of BLM. You're using "may" as if it proves something to push your narrative.
BLM is not an organization. There is no hierarchy, ergo no supporter is any more prominent than the other.
Posted on 7/11/16 at 3:58 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
BLM = KKK
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