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re: WBRZ reporting missing boy found dead
Posted on 12/23/14 at 9:09 am to meauxjeaux2
Posted on 12/23/14 at 9:09 am to meauxjeaux2
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I'm wondering what sort of protection they had around the hole,if any,before the incident occurred.
Obviously, I have no idea but the news specifically said there was no protection around the hole. To me, that leaves the city with some responsibility. Hell, if a store is required to put out a wet floor sign or be held responsible for an fall, shouldn't the city be held at least responsible to some degree for a unknown depth hidden hole in a residential area that is filled with water ?
Again, I'm not sue happy whatsoever and always tend to lean towards personal responsibility with accidents like this, but to me the city bears some responsibility here too.
This post was edited on 12/23/14 at 9:14 am
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Posted on 12/23/14 at 9:10 am to supadave3
i'm kinda leaning towards this line of thinking myself TBH
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:13 am to Golfer
Big problem with the child missing sometime between 12:30 and 5:30. That is a 5 hour span. How can you not know your child is missing for that long a period of time? Responsibility lies on whoever was supposed to be watching the child. This is just plain stupidity and neglect on the responsible party's part. Just sickening.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:15 am to Golfer
That is a"normal" I am not at all familiar with. 4 years old!!!
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:22 am to terd ferguson
Tried to pull a "Casey Anthony".
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:23 am to Isabelle
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ried to pull a "Casey Anthony".
I kinda doubt that. I think they were just drunk, high, preoccupied, or all 3 and just forgot about the kid for awhile. Black people don't often pull Casey Anthony type shite.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:29 am to supadave3
There are OSHA regs that require open excavations to either be covered, barricaded or fenced when work activity isn't taking place. If this was an accident, the city, contractor and any subcontractor involved in the excavation are going to get sued. If someone killed the child and then dumped the body, it may be a different story.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:34 am to White Roach
Call me crazy, but I feel like if someone wanted to kill a child and hide the body they wouldn't "hide" him in a hole dug by the parish 25ft from their house..
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:44 am to LSUengineer12
quote:Unless they were looking to get money out of it.
they wouldn't "hide" him in a hole dug by the parish 25ft from their house..
I don't think that's what happened. I think the child fell in.
Questions are: was the hole protected or marked; how can you not know that the parish dug a hole 25 feet from your house; even if you live in a vacuum and somehow didn't know, how can you let your 4yo run unsupervised for 4-5 hours?
If the hole wasn't protected the parish shares the blame, but imo the guardian/parent holds the larger share.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:46 am to LSUengineer12
I agree with your logic. However, (presumably) you and I are both rational and law abiding people who would never kill a child. I have no idea what goes on in the minds of the social miscreants in this world.
If I were BRPD, I wouldn't just assume that this was a tragic accident. That seems to be the most plausible, logical and likely explanation, but it's not the only possibility.
If I were BRPD, I wouldn't just assume that this was a tragic accident. That seems to be the most plausible, logical and likely explanation, but it's not the only possibility.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:55 am to Golfer
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The only negligence was leaving your 4 year old unsupervised for 5 hours.
This...
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:58 am to choupiquesushi
Bump for update on the hole:
quote:
He said a contractor backfilled the hole with “flowable fill and sand” and cement the bottom, sometime between the middle and end of September. “It was solid,” Harmon said. “We have photos of the site as it was graded and leveled … Sometime between September and now there was a migration of soils.”
Posted on 12/23/14 at 11:07 am to Golfer
how deep is this hole?
Posted on 12/23/14 at 11:09 am to slapahoe
I believe they said 3' deep
Posted on 12/23/14 at 11:11 am to Golfer
damn that is terrible. Surely if the kid fell in there, LE will be able to find scratches and scrapes on the side of the hole where the kid was trying to get out. If none of that is there......foul play is back into action IMO.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 11:12 am to Golfer
The contractor is responsible for their work for a period of time. I suspect they may have done something wrong allowing the soils to settle. Maybe it wasn't compacted properly. Maybe there was a leak in the sewer thus allowing soil to wash down the sewer line? It will be investigated thoroughly now.
None of that makes the guardians of that child any less responsible for leaving him unattended for an extended period of time. Four year olds need careful supervision.
Really a tragic situation.
None of that makes the guardians of that child any less responsible for leaving him unattended for an extended period of time. Four year olds need careful supervision.
Really a tragic situation.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 11:12 am to tigerbutt
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"I'm pissed off; Kip Holden will hear from me tomorrow morning," Lesly Reed, the child's aunt, said in frustration about the gaping hole just feet from her nephew's house and the spot where his lifeless body was found. "That's negligent, and it is unacceptable. It could have been anybody's child, anybody. [A detective] almost fell in that hole yesterday," she continued.
This is just beyond pathetic. Who loses track of a 4 year old for hours? I don't lose track of my dog for more than a half hour at a time..
Posted on 12/23/14 at 11:17 am to Pettifogger
Such a sad loss. I pray for the family and friends.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 12:41 pm to Golfer
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believe they said 3' deep
They needed a scuba diver to get the kid out. It had to be more than 3', don't ya think?
I thought I read 20' deep, but I don't remember where I read that. But, I doubt that would have saw him through the murky water if he 20' down, but maybe he was just submerged 7'+ feet or so.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 12:43 pm to supadave3
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They needed a scuba diver to get the kid out.
No they didn't.
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