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Posted on 4/8/15 at 12:19 pm to Hawkeye95
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he did, but she also got his SS and city pension.
She was a mooch, but frick most old people are mooches.
She got his SS and City pension because she was married to him, not because someone just gave it to her. It was earned. I have absolutely no problem with this.
Most old people are mooches, but frick, at least they generally have a reason to be.
Posted on 4/8/15 at 12:21 pm to CoCo311
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She got his SS and City pension because she was married to him, not because someone just gave it to her. It was earned. I have absolutely no problem with this.
Most old people are mooches, but frick, at least they generally have a reason to be
everyone is eligible for medicare. its not means tested, nor are benefits controlled like SS. Its flat up welfare for old people.
Posted on 4/8/15 at 12:23 pm to CoCo311
Ok, I think I got this now... frick old people AND poor people. Bout covers it? 
This post was edited on 4/8/15 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 4/8/15 at 12:24 pm to Hawkeye95
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B.c if that is a standard a bunch of old people are going to be out on the street with nothing.
I don't think I understand this statement.
Let's say a family of 3 has an income of 20k per year. They are going to get taxed on their paycheck, but will receive money back on their tax return and will qualify for benefits. If you added up what they paid at the end of the year compared to what they received, it will be a positive number for them. If not, then we are wasting energy. Lets say they paid a total of 5k in taxes, but received 3k in benefits (paid 2k). Why would we not just let them keep their 3k instead of taking it from them, then paying all the bureaucrats to give it right back to them as benefits? Those bureaucrats are there to take it from actual tax paying citizens then redistribute it to those that need it in the form of benefits. A waste if that is not the case.
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I would imagine close to 100% of welfare (SNAP/TANF) benefits are cycled back into the economy.
And I have no problem with benefits. You are right, it is cycled back into the economy as well as possibly providing a springboard to get people back on their feet. I agree with that and think it's not a bad thing. I just don't think that it is exempt from scrutiny. Government spending gets out of hand quickly. No one is truly accountable for the money. My wife used to work in a local government position and it is asinine how much money is wasted. People are taking advantage and nobody cares, because we can just tax the rich.
Posted on 4/8/15 at 12:25 pm to CoCo311
The quote in the OP is basically a retarded slippery slope argument.
They are saying, well since people want to drug test welfare recipients, it is only fair that we drug test anybody who receives government money.
Should I have to take a drug test to get my tax refund? Hell no. Should I have to take a drug test to get my social security? Hell no. Should I have to take a drug test because I'm telling the government they should pay me because I cant get a job? Hell yes.
They are saying, well since people want to drug test welfare recipients, it is only fair that we drug test anybody who receives government money.
Should I have to take a drug test to get my tax refund? Hell no. Should I have to take a drug test to get my social security? Hell no. Should I have to take a drug test because I'm telling the government they should pay me because I cant get a job? Hell yes.
Posted on 4/8/15 at 12:35 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
I guess if you have a journalism degree you can just write anything. The Post is very liberal obviously however to write something like this is just insane. The comparisons are ridiculous. Ask me as a small business owner for 17 years if I will submit to a drug test and in return I get a tax break or a refund or anything other than more government interference. I would take a drug test any time. I'm running a business and family and trying to make a living. I don't have time to sit around and get high.
Posted on 4/8/15 at 12:36 pm to Count Chocula
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Ok, I think I got this now... frick old people AND poor people. Bout covers it?
works for me!
Posted on 4/8/15 at 12:36 pm to KG6
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Let's say a family of 3 has an income of 20k per year. They are going to get taxed on their paycheck, but will receive money back on their tax return and will qualify for benefits. If you added up what they paid at the end of the year compared to what they received, it will be a positive number for them. If not, then we are wasting energy. Lets say they paid a total of 5k in taxes, but received 3k in benefits (paid 2k). Why would we not just let them keep their 3k instead of taking it from them, then paying all the bureaucrats to give it right back to them as benefits? Those bureaucrats are there to take it from actual tax paying citizens then redistribute it to those that need it in the form of benefits. A waste if that is not the case.
Change this to people over to 65 and it holds true. They aren't paying much in taxes, but receiving a lot of the benefits.
Posted on 4/8/15 at 12:40 pm to Mo Jeaux
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Look. I get your point, and I think StrongSaftety was being trollish, but what interest rate are you paying on your loans? What interest rate do you think would otherwise be attributable to those loans had they been originated by a private lender without government subsidization?
My credit has been pretty good and at the time I probably would've had my parents cosign, so I would've likely gotten a decent rate. I've also always banked with a credit union. I know at one point the personal loan I took out (and paid back) had a lower interest rate than my student loan.
Posted on 4/8/15 at 1:11 pm to CoCo311
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The idea that they do defies Maslow's hierarchy — the notion that we all need shelter and food before we go in search of foot massages. In fact, the poor are much more savvy about how they spend their money because they have less of it
The notion of Maslow's hierarchy goes contrary to homeless people spending money on booze and drugs, or turning away free beds at shelters because they don't want to be sober or clean.
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We don't require Pell Grant recipients to prove that they're pursuing a degree that will get them a real job one day (sorry, no poetry!)
No, but federal student aid recipients will have their eligibility revoked if they are convicted of a drug offense while receiving student aid.
Also
Gross. 5 head.
Posted on 4/8/15 at 1:34 pm to Bmath
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A handout is free. Loans are generally paid back with interest.
How often are unsecured loans made to people with little to no established credit history with only vague and delayed plans to acquire the means for repayment?
Posted on 4/8/15 at 1:55 pm to Dead Mike
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you ever wonder why virtually all anger and resentment is sent towards the 16% of welfare abuse from welfare queens and kings...but you never hear any outrage from the millions in corporate bailouts, tax fraud, offshore accounts, abuse...etc etc? You think it's because they have better haircuts and cleaner suits? Maybe some people convince themselves that it's okay for the super rich to basically be as conniving and lazy( should just say greedy, because God knows it takes some time and talent to cook books and own wall street) as the ghetto because, hey, look how good and respectable they look doing it.
One of my friends friends posted this under the article. I thought it too was humorous.
Posted on 4/8/15 at 2:03 pm to StrongSafety
quote:a pretty good troll, even by your lofty standards
Your student loans were still a govt handout becaue you poors couldn't afford college on your own dime
lots of 'em biting today
Posted on 4/8/15 at 2:07 pm to CoCo311
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We don't drug-test farmers who receive agriculture subsidies
But we do make sure they're actually farmers
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We don't require Pell Grant recipients to prove that they're pursuing a degree that will get them a real job one day
But we do make sure they're doing education related something
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We don't require wealthy families who cash in on the home mortgage interest deduction to prove that they don't use their homes as brothels
But we do make sure they own a home.
No difference in wanting to make sure those on welfare, etc... are actually in dire need of gov. assistance.
SJW Triggers all over that article.
If there was a mental gymnastic Olympics. She'd win a medal.
Posted on 4/8/15 at 2:16 pm to davesdawgs
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tax breaks for farmers
Quick - everybody look for the guy who doesn't know what a subsidy is.
As far as the rest of it.... rabble, rabble, class warfare, etc.
Nothing is going to change. It's all just talk until it all goes to actual shite and there are actual bread lines and shanty towns (just like the 20s.) Then there will be a "correction" for the vast majority and we'll have some time of a strong middle class, and then it'll swing back to high income inequality again.
"History repeats itself" is a cliche for a reason.
We're all helpless to stop it. Sit back, crack a beer and enjoy the show.
Posted on 4/8/15 at 2:24 pm to CoCo311
If you really wanna get mad go read the reddit comments
Posted on 4/8/15 at 2:26 pm to Breesus
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But we do make sure they're actually farmers
Right. Seriously, some of you people should try reading portions of the tax code every so often. Do you really think people like Bon Jovi and Ted Turner are "farmers?" I mean I know they are "under the tax code," but let's get serious. This post was edited on 4/8/15 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 4/8/15 at 2:27 pm to Tooncesridesagain
That the broad that wrote this piece of garbage?
Has SJW written all over that gigantic forehead
Has SJW written all over that gigantic forehead
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