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re: Walker mayor suing state and federal governments
Posted on 8/16/16 at 10:14 pm to jimjackandjose
Posted on 8/16/16 at 10:14 pm to jimjackandjose
quote:
I wonder if this made some of the flooding south of i12 on range worse.
Of course it did. Some guy on this thread said "well, my house stayed dry so that was good so I could go help my friend on the north side who got flooded."
I don't want friends like that.
What about share the load?
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Posted on 8/16/16 at 10:15 pm to gsvar2004
quote:
That wall saved my home. I live just south of tve interstate in Walker and we had water touching our slab with the wall.
Had it not been there we'd have been above my roof. I feel very sorry for the people north of i12 and spent the entire day helping a friend clean up thier place from a total loss, but like I told him, had I flooded too, there Would be no one who stayed dry to help.
I don't want friends like you.
"Yes, I ran so the pit bull could eat you. But if I hadn't, there would be no one to come bandage you up!" Fricker.
This post was edited on 8/16/16 at 10:17 pm
Posted on 8/16/16 at 10:17 pm to jimjackandjose
Glad to see all the hydrologists and hydraulic experts have already studied the drainage basins and confirmed that he wall was indeed the issue.
Good job!
Now onto brain surgery or, better yet, rocket design.
Good job!
Now onto brain surgery or, better yet, rocket design.
Posted on 8/16/16 at 10:19 pm to The Next
quote:It's silly to think he should wait to take up for his people. He needs to get out in front of this and not waste any time.
Normally I'd be gung ho and root him on but there are people that still can't even get to their homes. If you're elected to serve the people, serve the people in their immediate need. The dick measuring can wait.
Posted on 8/16/16 at 10:19 pm to CharlesLSU
Posted on 8/16/16 at 10:22 pm to Halftrack
quote:
I don't want friends like you.
Good
If my house had flooded that family with 2 little boys would have had nowhere to go asshat. That's what I was referring to.
Posted on 8/16/16 at 10:24 pm to The Next
Is there any way that we can blame this on the oil companies?
Posted on 8/16/16 at 10:28 pm to gsvar2004
quote:
f my house had flooded that family with 2 little boys would have had nowhere to go asshat. That's what I was referring to.
Agreed. Nobody with kids lives north of I-12.
Posted on 8/16/16 at 10:42 pm to Halftrack
You are aware that even the most stringent drainage design is capped at a 100-year event?
This one was 500-year+
Do you understand what that means? Ok, I'll help you. The drainage crossings under I-12 would perform adequately should a heavy rain event happen, say, a 10 to 25-year storm event. This means flow rates would be such that water would/should not "back up". Under conditions like the one that just occurred would overwhelm the system causing said backups on the side where the flow originates (the north side).
But, let's not let reasonable engineering practices get on the way.
This one was 500-year+
Do you understand what that means? Ok, I'll help you. The drainage crossings under I-12 would perform adequately should a heavy rain event happen, say, a 10 to 25-year storm event. This means flow rates would be such that water would/should not "back up". Under conditions like the one that just occurred would overwhelm the system causing said backups on the side where the flow originates (the north side).
But, let's not let reasonable engineering practices get on the way.
This post was edited on 8/16/16 at 10:46 pm
Posted on 8/16/16 at 10:47 pm to shel311
quote:
It's silly to think he should wait to take up for his people. He needs to get out in front of this and not waste any time.
If he wants to take up for his people, run to the news to talk about where to get relief supplies or when and where people can get to their homes to start assessing the damage. Coordinate some clean up crews. Start cleaning out the drainage ditches. Spend your time for what the people elected you to do. Don't waste your time on a lawsuit that will take years to litigate and IF they win, will likely never see a dime of settlement. Plus, whose going to pay all the court costs for this circus show? I'd be willing to bet Walkers tax base will take a huge hit for many years. And if they happen to actually get any money, if be willing to bet the actual residents don't get a penny of it. It's just like someone else said, this is all for publicity and to put his name on something.
Posted on 8/16/16 at 10:49 pm to CharlesLSU
Yes, I agree. Removing a few concrete blocks every 1/4 of a mile is quite unreasonable.
Especially when the Mayor of Walker has been calling it to the attention of the DOTD engineers for OVER 3 years. Maybe if he did it for 497 MORE years the DOTD would have heard him.
Especially when the Mayor of Walker has been calling it to the attention of the DOTD engineers for OVER 3 years. Maybe if he did it for 497 MORE years the DOTD would have heard him.
Posted on 8/16/16 at 10:49 pm to CharlesLSU
quote:
You are aware that even the most stringent drainage design is capped at a 100-year event?
This one was 500-year+
Exactly. They'll have a tough time proving that DOTD violated an important thing in construction law called the "standard of care."
Posted on 8/16/16 at 10:57 pm to urinetrouble
quote:
Yes, I agree. Removing a few concrete blocks every 1/4 of a mile is quite unreasonable.
Posted on 8/16/16 at 11:00 pm to Halftrack
And, from your analysis, that is exactly all it would take to mitigate a water burden from a watershed of several hundred square miles experiencing a 500-year event.
H&H analysis goes far beyond what the naked eye interprets.
H&H analysis goes far beyond what the naked eye interprets.
Posted on 8/16/16 at 11:00 pm to Halftrack
Walker's mayor is certifiable crazy. I had to meet with him several times and he is one of the most insane Mayors I have ever met.
Posted on 8/16/16 at 11:02 pm to LSUDAN1
He is going to lose his case.
Posted on 8/16/16 at 11:03 pm to The Next
Isn't this ammo for ins companies to try and not pay out. Of course it's all no secret but making a big deal that there was negligence is bad for the property owners getting their dues. Or am I off on this?
Posted on 8/16/16 at 11:09 pm to CharlesLSU
The walls are just what the photo is showing
The deck and the girders below are blocking even more flow, but I agree that you can just only build so high. You can't design everything for a 500 year event, which is pretty much what USACE wanted to do after Katrina.
The deck and the girders below are blocking even more flow, but I agree that you can just only build so high. You can't design everything for a 500 year event, which is pretty much what USACE wanted to do after Katrina.
Posted on 8/16/16 at 11:10 pm to Halftrack
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This post was edited on 8/23/16 at 9:45 am
Posted on 8/16/16 at 11:10 pm to CharlesLSU
Takes years of schooling to figure this out
And they didn't even remove 1 block for 18 miles.
And they didn't even remove 1 block for 18 miles.
This post was edited on 8/16/16 at 11:12 pm
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