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re: Voting on the Greenlight Plan

Posted on 11/29/16 at 12:49 pm to
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 11/29/16 at 12:49 pm to
From the link, this is what I gather what they want to do:

quote:

Promote use of the 190 bridge
widen I10 from Asc to BR
build new bridge over MR


If I am missing more, please help a brotha out. That said, here are my questions:

people are already using the OMRB. How much more traffic do they think it can handle before its a cluster frick as well?

I10 is a federal road, no? Wouldn't the feds have to approve and widen the interstate?

haven't we been discussing a new bridge for years already? with no agreement on where to put said bridge? Why should I pay an extra $62.00/year to prolong the disagreement?


Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
47482 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 12:52 pm to
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Has traffic improved? At all?



Just from my neck of the woods:

--Do you not remember southbound traffic on Perkins heading toward Bluebonnet in the 90s? It was backed up to Imahara's everyday and often all way back to Bles Rd.

--Burbank was the same way southbound to Gardere would back up to Lakeside Daq.

--Highland Northbound to Gardere would back up to bluebonnet.

--Siegen Southbound at Highland would back up to Perkins when someone wanted to turn left at Natchez Trace or Quail Ridge.


So yea. Shush. And vote for the fricking plan.
This post was edited on 11/29/16 at 1:38 pm
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:10 pm to
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As a matter of fact it HAS improved things in the areas the plan addressed.

The problem is we are 20-30 years behind in infrastructure so every improvement seems like a drop in the bucket.



did the plan anticipate hurricanes and floods increasing the traffic flow immensely?
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:11 pm to
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The traffic situation would vastly improve If Baton Rouge drivers understood that you wait until you can completely cross an intersection.



these people need to be executed
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:13 pm to
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but this dedicated tax has been proven solid and well spent.
This is a new tax, not a renewal.
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:13 pm to
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I-10 Widening (one lane in both directions) Through Baton Rouge
Cost Range – $350 M


Aside from a lacking a loop, the biggest issue with interstate traffic in Baton Rouge is the 12-110 corridor.

Going East you're taking 6 lanes of traffic (4 from 10, 2 from 110) then condensing it down to 4 (by cutting 2 out to go onto 110) then 3.

Going West is very similar. Three lanes from 10 and three lanes from 12 merge into 5, then 4, then 3.

Adding one lane in each direction isn't going to do much. For the amount of the disruption that will cause they need to add 2-3 lanes.
This post was edited on 11/29/16 at 1:26 pm
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25513 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:15 pm to
I'll be voting no, not that it will matter.
If they want the money to do the roads, then they can steal it from the two stupid arse taxes that just passed, as well as the Brec tax, and the dumbass library tax last year, and CATS.

Posted by rondo
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Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:16 pm to
how much are these taxes you're getting so butthurt over?
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11480 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:18 pm to
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how much are these taxes you're getting so butthurt over?


How can we possibly add up all the taxes we pay in LA? We are nickled and dimed to death. When you argue any single tax someone always says "how much is that little tax??"
Posted by DaTroof
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2015
976 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:22 pm to
Sure, I'm all for more taxes, why not? I currently do not feel that I work enough long hours each week only to have my hard earned money get pissed away by the many inefficient programs this state already has in place. Where do I sign up?

frick any additional taxes! If the state wants to implement any new programs they need to either eliminate old programs or be more efficient with the money they already get. I'm sick of the state neglecting major issues for years and asking for more tax money to fix them. If we continue to throw money at them they will continue to ask for more and more. How about we find a way to do more with the money the state already gets? If they want this or any other program they need to do what many households in Louisiana are forced to do - tighten the belt, reduce spending, and make existing programs/initiatives more efficient.

Also: Want millions in more tax dollars each year, along with more jobs? LEGALIZE MARIJUANA
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:24 pm to
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How can we possibly add up all the taxes we pay in LA? We are nickled and dimed to death. When you argue any single tax someone always says "how much is that little tax??"


I agree the LA Constitution needs to be changed and the state's revenue/budget model vastly altered.

But this is the system you fine citizens voted on.

Please don't use your anger over unneccessary taxes protecting shitty causes stop you from voting on worthy items such as PGL.

Symbolic voting gets us nowhere. If you wish to shutdown some dedicated taxes then push for repeals. Voting No on PGL won't get the message across and will only result in you sitting in traffic longer as the city grows beyond its infrastructural means.
This post was edited on 11/29/16 at 1:25 pm
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101919 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:25 pm to
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Sure, I'm all for more taxes, why not? I currently do not feel that I work enough long hours each week only to have my hard earned money get pissed away by the many inefficient programs this state already has in place. Where do I sign up?

frick any additional taxes! If the state wants to implement any new programs they need to either eliminate old programs or be more efficient with the money they already get. I'm sick of the state neglecting major issues for years and asking for more tax money to fix them. If we continue to throw money at them they will continue to ask for more and more. How about we find a way to do more with the money the state already gets? If they want this or any other program they need to do what many households in Louisiana are forced to do - tighten the belt, reduce spending, and make existing programs/initiatives more efficient.

Also: Want millions in more tax dollars each year, along with more jobs? LEGALIZE MARIJUANA


This is an EBR tax, not state level.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11480 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:26 pm to
Agree to disagree. I think voting No to any new or renewals will send a message.
Posted by DaTroof
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2015
976 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:27 pm to
quote:

This is an EBR tax, not state level.


Oh, sorry, let me reconsider.......frick NO!
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Member since Apr 2012
17132 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:29 pm to
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If the state wants to implement any new programs they need to either eliminate old programs or be more efficient with the money they already get


Louisiana has a annual budget of roughly $19B

Louisiana has an infrastructure backlog of $12B

Meaning you would have to virtually eliminate every state agency, program and employee to adhere to your cut/replace policy
This post was edited on 11/29/16 at 1:30 pm
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11480 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:30 pm to
quote:

Louisiana has a annual budget of roughly $19B

Louisiana has an infrastructure backlog of $12B

Meaning you would have to virtually eliminate every state agency, program and employee to adhere to your cut/replace policy


So every project in the backlog will be completed in one year if approved?
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17132 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:32 pm to
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Agree to disagree. I think voting No to any new or renewals will send a message.


Has that message been heard yet?

I'll be sitting in traffic in Ascension this evening thanks solely to voters feeling their voting "No" on infrastructure projects "sends a message"

The only message the Parish Council heard was "stop trying to improve because it will just get voted down"

Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Member since Apr 2012
17132 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:33 pm to
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So every project in the backlog will be completed in one year if approved?


funded =/ completed
Posted by DaTroof
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2015
976 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:33 pm to
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Meaning you would have to virtually eliminate every state agency, program and employee to adhere to your cut/replace policy


First of all....bullshite

Second of all....I want to see those who have neglected this "backlog" to the tune of $12B fired, fined, and imprisoned. We the people need accountability for the tax dollars we have already paid to this state for many many years. Where has all the money gone? I'm no longer interested in bailing out the State of Louisiana due to years of willful neglect by our government. frick ANY NEW TAXES! Let's work to REDUCE taxes for the good people of Louisiana.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:36 pm to
quote:

Sure, I'm all for more taxes, why not? I currently do not feel that I work enough long hours each week only to have my hard earned money get pissed away by the many inefficient programs this state already has in place. Where do I sign up?


well grab your wallet buddy, cause the state is getting ready to increase the gas tax by double digits!! Yes you can add another .20/gallon for gas. Cause you know gas is only $1.94/gallon right now. But when it goes up to $2.50-2.75/gallon, you and I will be paying over $3/gallon cause JBE thinks its just by God time we increase that gas tax.

This fricking state!!
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