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re: Voting on the Greenlight Plan
Posted on 11/30/16 at 5:01 pm to kingbob
Posted on 11/30/16 at 5:01 pm to kingbob
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While this is true, the worst of the chokepoints are in EBR, and the citizens of EBR have to deal with the traffic whether the suburbs cause it or not.
We don't have to deal with it be ourselves.
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The suburbs have their own problems as well. The traffic issues in the capital region are the results of decades of compounding failures at the local, state, and federal level. It will take work and money from all three levels to fix it. Rather than squabbling about who's fault it is and who should shoulder the cost, like we've been doing for 20 years, it's time we just say f$&k it and pay to fix it ourselves. Damn this whole "it's not my job" attitude. It's about time we just go ahead and get this stuff done.
I don't disagree at all.
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It took over 30 years to get a left turn signal on Nicholson @ Brightside. 30 YEARS!!! This plan will 4 lane Nicholson to the Parish Line. Ascension is planning to 4-lane nicholson between I-10 and the parish line with Iberville. Iberville woll likely 4-lane their stretch as well if both other parishes do the same. By EBR taking leadership, the other parishes will follow and do their part.
Well don't look now but the left turn is gone already. It didn't work (or so they say).
BTW. the first Greenlight plan was supposed to four lane Nicholson to roughly Ben Hur. This is a state road heavily travelled by regional commuters. This is a state project, and not a parish deal. It is called La. 30 for a reason.
Our legislators have to get the state involved in these type projects or at the end of the day EBR will build a loop by themselves and watch the rest of the state and half of America enjoy it.
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Posted on 11/30/16 at 5:02 pm to lsu13lsu
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Primarily an improvement for the City of BR but is taxing all of EBR.
How many people living outside of the city stay outside of the city most of the time. Traffic conditions in the city says not many of them. Half of the things on that list you quoted seem like it would help rush hour traffic bottle necks which helps pretty much everyone. Did widening Airline just help the City of BR?
Posted on 11/30/16 at 5:05 pm to member12
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Are you saying we don't have problems with traffic in EBR? Because we definitely do.
No, I'm saying much or not most of our problems are regional or even national issues.
I-10/I-12 National
Airline Hwy. National/state
Perkins/Highland(42)/Nicholson(30)/Hooper/Plank state, regional
The population figures are to demonstrate the traffic isn't just EBR taypayers, its many more than that who left the parish for better schools.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 5:06 pm to kingbob
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The suburbs have their own problems as well
Ascension needs to consider a similar bond proposal to improve some of their road network. It's pretty bad.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 5:06 pm to member12
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And extend Hooper across the river to Watson, but EBR taxpayers should NOT pay for that although I think it's reasonable to plan for it.
Another good, regional idea. And yes we could pay some but the state should pay the most.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 5:08 pm to TigerinATL
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How many people living outside of the city stay outside of the city most of the time. Traffic conditions in the city says not many of them. Half of the things on that list you quoted seem like it would help rush hour traffic bottle necks which helps pretty much everyone. Did widening Airline just help the City of BR?
Correct, most thoroughfares serve a lot more people than just those in the respective neighborhoods.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 5:14 pm to doubleb
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No, I'm saying much or not most of our problems are regional or even national issues.
Much, but not all of our problems are because the capital region has gotten the shaft for decades on federal and state funding. Airline should not be 4 lanes with a narrow median in north Baton Rouge or south of Bluebonnet. I-10 should not be the choke point it is today. There should be a bridge between Plaquemine and St. Gabriel somewhere.
There's still no excuse for major roads like Hooper, Perkins, Lee, or Old Hammond to be the same 2 lane rural cross section with no shoulders and open ditches in some places. That's on us as EBR taxpayers.
This post was edited on 11/30/16 at 5:19 pm
Posted on 11/30/16 at 5:16 pm to doubleb
Both candidates expressed their support for Greenlight 2 at the debate last night.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 5:19 pm to member12
They are. They are currently working on or planning to widen 74, 42, 30, 431, and the road connecting 22 with the sunshine bridge.
They are also working on creating a parish-wide water and sewage network, already underway in the north, that will be built in stages and serve the entire parish. The new water and sewer lines would be built in conjunction with widening the roads.
Ascension is even farther behind than EBR, but they are also working on it.
They are also working on creating a parish-wide water and sewage network, already underway in the north, that will be built in stages and serve the entire parish. The new water and sewer lines would be built in conjunction with widening the roads.
Ascension is even farther behind than EBR, but they are also working on it.
This post was edited on 11/30/16 at 5:24 pm
Posted on 11/30/16 at 5:41 pm to member12
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There's still no excuse for major roads like Hooper, Perkins, Lee, or Old Hammond to be the same 2 lane rural cross section with no shoulders and open ditches in some places. That's on us as EBR taxpayers
Hooper, Perkins, Old Hammond are all state highways.
Lee was not widened previously because of tree huggers.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 5:41 pm to kingbob
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Ascension is even farther behind than EBR, but they are also working on it.
Nice to hear. IMO the region's criticism of a lack of state/federal funding is an even bigger deal since the area is clearly attempting to improve local problem areas - even taxing themselves to do it.
A lot of those state roads should have been improved a long time ago.
This post was edited on 11/30/16 at 5:47 pm
Posted on 11/30/16 at 5:43 pm to doubleb
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Lee was not widened previously because of tree huggers.
A simple center turn lane by itself would be yuge for traffic flow on Lee.
Bigly.
This post was edited on 11/30/16 at 5:48 pm
Posted on 11/30/16 at 6:03 pm to Martini
Never
Ever
Never
Will i vote for a tax
Jus look at all the wastefull spending
And state employees that dont deaux shite
Ever
Never
Will i vote for a tax
Jus look at all the wastefull spending
And state employees that dont deaux shite
Posted on 11/30/16 at 6:23 pm to kingbob
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Damn this whole "it's not my job" attitude. It's about time we just go ahead and get this stuff done.
I agree. I support the proposal, but we also need to squeeze more $$ out of the state and feds to address major highways like I-10 and 61.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 6:24 pm to Drop4Loss
At some poin, you have to realize that the state government is worthless and will never do their job when it comes to transportation infrastructure. That's why we need to just say enough is enough and tax ourselves at the local level to build our own damn roads. F$&k the state. Let's do it ourselves.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 6:26 pm to kingbob
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That's why we need to just say enough is enough and tax ourselves at the local level to build our own damn roads. F$&k the state. Let's do it ourselves.
One of the reasons Nicholson and Old Hammond projects are delayed is because we are waiting on state matching funds.
I do believe that the interchange at Pecue/I-10 is happening. The parish will have to cover most of the rest of Pecue widening though.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 6:29 pm to member12
No doubt, Lee was to be widened in the early 70s The vote failed. NBR voted it down. So was Dalrymple.
I wish I could find that bond plan.
We've been arguing about these things for decades.
Lee should have been widened in Green Light 1.
I wish I could find that bond plan.
We've been arguing about these things for decades.
Lee should have been widened in Green Light 1.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 6:30 pm to goofball
It's way too much,
No way EBR could do it all.
No way EBR could do it all.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 6:32 pm to doubleb
Well, we might as well start somewhere.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 6:32 pm to kingbob
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They are currently working on or planning to widen 74, 42, 30, 431, and the road connecting 22 with the sunshine bridge.
They've been talking about widening 42 for 5 years. It's like Jones Creek. You can tell the state is involved because there's never any progress - and I think the segment is less than 2 miles long.
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