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re: Vatican: No more scattering of cremation ashes for Catholics
Posted on 10/25/16 at 10:02 pm to BlackPawnMartyr
Posted on 10/25/16 at 10:02 pm to BlackPawnMartyr
So its ok to suck a dick but not bring ashes of loved ones home? Yea, ok. Thank little baby jesus I dont buy into all that religious bullshite anymore.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 10:19 pm to BlackPawnMartyr
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"The dead body isn't the private property of relatives, but rather a son of God who is part of the people of God," Mueller said. "We have to get over this individualistic thinking."
So the Catholic church thinks my mom's body was not my family's "private property" to deal with? Funny how it was MY responsibility to pay the bills to have her body transported, cremated and to pay to open the family vault to have her ashes put in.
I didn't see the Catholic church there ready to pay for any of that or to offer one bit of help in any way so they shouldn't expect that I should give a dang on how they think I should have handled it.
FWIW, I had cousins who were molested by a Catholic priest and the church didn't give a crap about their bodies being "a son of God who is part of the people of God". The kids and family were punished, threatened and left the church for good while the pedo-priest was promoted and carried on to molest more kids.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 10:21 pm to gingerkittie
God will judge that priest.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 10:40 pm to BRgetthenet
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God will judge that priest.
Isn't it pretty to think so.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 11:36 pm to Btrtigerfan
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agree with this. By their own belief system, the body is an empty vessel after death.
Paul taught that the body would be resurrected. The actual physical body would be made whole again.
And I think this was the idea behind burning heretics.
Posted on 10/26/16 at 12:02 am to biglego
Catholics can do what they want, but it is shite like this that gives all Christians a bad name to the non-believers. Catholics are so obsessed with rituals, traditions, and symbols that they seem to miss the entire point altogether. Their God is Catholicism instead of Christ, who I'm quite sure could not give a good goddamn what anybody does with their ashes after death.
Posted on 10/26/16 at 12:07 am to BlackPawnMartyr
I heard it's because since copper is so high these days meth heads are stealing ashes and sifting the copper out for scrap
Posted on 10/26/16 at 12:25 am to BlackPawnMartyr
How much money do the pedophile gangsters want to make storing ashes "holy"?
Posted on 10/26/16 at 1:51 am to BlackPawnMartyr
Was once told that if I chose to be cremated then my body could not ascend to heaven when the "rapture" happened. But isn't one of the most popular bible verses "From ashes to ashes" or something. These clergymen, pastors have no frickin clue.
Posted on 10/26/16 at 2:06 am to Hot Carl
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Catholics are so obsessed with rituals, traditions, and symbols that they seem to miss the entire point altogether.
You might want to pick up a book and read about the early Church. Ritual, tradition, and symbolism were very important to early Christians. Even the earliest Protestant denominations were very big on ritual, tradition, and symbolism. It's not until the last 250 years that you see churches popping up that reject that tradition, claiming as you do that it misses the point altogether.
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Posted on 10/26/16 at 2:52 am to BlackPawnMartyr
Always cracks me up people listen to one flawed, sinning, human being to guide every facet of their lives. You really think the Creator cares where the ashes are kept?
In the meantime, don't forget to pay your penance! Someone's gotta keep getting rich off the exploitation of the poor, and taking every last cent they have under the guise it will get them into a mythical heaven as the church describes it.
Meanwhile they facilitate and simultaneously cover-up a systematic abuse system whereby the most 'sacred' members of their cult are committing rape of children world-wide.
You know how we now realize that the Greeks and Romans were fools to believe that the Sun and stars were really Gods, who veered over them and played them like pawns in a chess game?
It will probably only take another 1,000 years before the next enlightenment...
Alas, in the meantime, let's keep killing each other and flying airplanes into buildings in the name of our so-called deities.
Posted on 10/26/16 at 3:24 am to BlackPawnMartyr
why do so many non-Catholics get worked up over Catholic doctrine?
Posted on 10/26/16 at 3:32 am to Rebel
Well, in Louisiana, because you can't swing a dead cat without hitting a papist between the eyes.
Posted on 10/26/16 at 3:36 am to Jim Rockford
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Well, in Louisiana, because you can't swing a dead cat without hitting a papist between the eyes.
that doesn't answer why you get so riled up about it.
Posted on 10/26/16 at 3:51 am to Rebel
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that doesn't answer why you get so riled up about it.
It's a holdover from the hundreds of years when the RCC ruthlessly suppressed dissenters. Some of us aren't so sure they wouldn't still do it if they could.
Posted on 10/26/16 at 4:16 am to Jim Rockford
Lol. You feel suppressed?
Posted on 10/26/16 at 5:21 am to Babewinkelman
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Just spread the ashes and replace with the ashe's from bbq pit, church will never know
Posted on 10/26/16 at 5:58 am to Rebel
Maybe they should start putting safe spaces in place of cry rooms?
Posted on 10/26/16 at 6:07 am to Rebel
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why do so many non-Catholics get worked up over Catholic doctrine?
Maybe the pompous, holier than thou attitude behind it? Maybe the history of forcing their beliefs on others, even to the point of killing people? Just a guess.
Posted on 10/26/16 at 6:16 am to Mo Jeaux
So much ignorance in this thread. Willful ignorance.
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