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re: US Army Chief of Staff: Army at high risk in war against China or Russia
Posted on 3/17/16 at 11:53 am to Darth_Vader
Posted on 3/17/16 at 11:53 am to Darth_Vader
quote:Isn't our military budget more than the next 5 or 6 highest countries combined? I'd like to think we could withstand the cumulative effects mentioned.
WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Army's top general says military forces on the ground face a high level of risk if the United States gets into a large-scale conflict against a power such as Russia or China. Testifying Wednesday on Capitol Hill, Army Chief of Staff Gen. Mark Milley says years of combat in Iraq and Afghanistan, constrained budgets and troop cuts have had a cumulative effect on the service.
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Posted on 3/17/16 at 11:54 am to Darth_Vader
I feel like the air campaigns in an actual war between superpowers in 2016 would make the stuff in WW2 look like a Sunday at the beach. If you could breach the air defenses and were really looking to cause casualties you could kill literally millions of people without trying all that hard.
The hope is that said air defenses never GET breached, but if they do and say NYC or LA gets bombed? That's going to be brutal.
Plus, we have all kinds of intercontinental missiles now that can carry all kinds of payloads.
My point is, if two major powers actually try to start killing people humanity as a whole is kinda fricked.
The hope is that said air defenses never GET breached, but if they do and say NYC or LA gets bombed? That's going to be brutal.
Plus, we have all kinds of intercontinental missiles now that can carry all kinds of payloads.
My point is, if two major powers actually try to start killing people humanity as a whole is kinda fricked.
Posted on 3/17/16 at 11:55 am to Darth_Vader
The real question is which side RedRifle supports
Posted on 3/17/16 at 11:57 am to Redbone
quote:your arse - W had 8 frickin' years to build up the military and he did - Mission Accomplished.
And the sun is going to come up in the morning. I don't know what the assessment would have been before Clinton gutted the military to balance the budget but it has been that way ever since then. You can't have it both ways.
Posted on 3/17/16 at 12:00 pm to Pettifogger
quote:That dude would drink Putin's urine for a trip to Siberia if it was offered.
The real question is which side RedRifle supports
Posted on 3/17/16 at 12:02 pm to shel311
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Isn't our military budget more than the next 5 or 6 highest countries combined? I'd like to think we could withstand the cumulative effects mentioned.
Well according to the Army Chief of Staff, it's not entirely certain we could. And who would know better about this than him?
Posted on 3/17/16 at 12:02 pm to Darth_Vader
0 fricks given. We've not fought a war for our freedom since WW2.
Posted on 3/17/16 at 12:03 pm to shel311
Sounds like fear monger in and it will probably work
Posted on 3/17/16 at 12:05 pm to TT9
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0 fricks given. We've not fought a war for our freedom since WW2.
Primarily because since WWII we've been strong enough from a military standpoint for it to be out of the question for any country to challenge us.
Posted on 3/17/16 at 12:06 pm to Darth_Vader
If we're getting into a large scale conflict with Russia or China, I'm not really sure how going back to 2006 will be a huge help.
What is he asking for? A blank check?
What is he asking for? A blank check?
Posted on 3/17/16 at 12:07 pm to Darth_Vader
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Testifying Wednesday on Capitol Hill, Army Chief of Staff Gen. Mark Milley says years of combat in Iraq and Afghanistan, constrained budgets and troop cuts have had a cumulative effect on the service.
Milley says the Army is ready to fight the Islamic State group and other terrorist organizations.
But what Milley describes as a "great power war" against one or two of four countries - China, Russia, Iran and North Korea - would pose greater challenges.
Posted on 3/17/16 at 12:08 pm to Dr RC
lol right?
Posted on 3/17/16 at 12:10 pm to Darth_Vader
And here we go! Military Complex about to swivel to building war machines for massive ground war in Asia!
Posted on 3/17/16 at 12:10 pm to Ash Williams
It's more about the fact that we can't, and we never have, planned on matching Russia or China tank for tank, soldier for soldier. We have always developed offset strategies that help mitigate their numbers advantage.
The first offset was the nuclear capabilities and nuclear deterrence. The second offset was smart munitions. The third offset is what is being developed now, and it has more to do with human-machine interface, artificial intelligence, and machine learning. This will be crucial if we were to actually get drawn into war with Russia or China.
ETA - the third offset strategy will be expensive as f*ck to develop.
The first offset was the nuclear capabilities and nuclear deterrence. The second offset was smart munitions. The third offset is what is being developed now, and it has more to do with human-machine interface, artificial intelligence, and machine learning. This will be crucial if we were to actually get drawn into war with Russia or China.
ETA - the third offset strategy will be expensive as f*ck to develop.
This post was edited on 3/17/16 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 3/17/16 at 12:11 pm to Darth_Vader
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Primarily because since WWII we've been strong enough from a military standpoint for it to be out of the question for any country to challenge us.
This is absolutely correct. Now, with the vulnerabilities we face in the cyber domain, it is no longer out of the question.
Posted on 3/17/16 at 12:22 pm to Darth_Vader
quote:Not questioning the statement, I'm jus not understanding how we got to the point where this statement is so given the absurd military budget we have annually.
Well according to the Army Chief of Staff, it's not entirely certain we could. And who would know better about this than him?
Posted on 3/17/16 at 12:30 pm to shel311
Either he's lying or distorting the truth to get more money, or we spend the money we have in a terrible manner. Or our military goals are totally unrealistic and need to be reexamined. We spend as much on military as the next nine nations combined, and we account for almost 40% of all military/defense spending in the world.
If we're panicking over defense capabilities compared to other countries something doesn't add up
If we're panicking over defense capabilities compared to other countries something doesn't add up
This post was edited on 3/17/16 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 3/17/16 at 12:36 pm to tigerfan88
quote:That's what I was getting at, well said!
Either he's lying or distorting the truth to get more money, or we spend the money we have in a terrible manner. Or our military goals are totally unrealistic and need to be reexamined. We spend as much on military as the next nine nations combined, and we account for almost 40% of all military/defense spending in the world.
Posted on 3/17/16 at 1:44 pm to Darth_Vader
If we would be at risk what the frick are spending money on right now? So we outspend them by a frick ton and they still pose a risk?
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