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re: UPDATE- NOW INDICTED- Cincy police chief says video of cop shooting man is "not good"

Posted on 7/29/15 at 10:28 pm to
Posted by SupGirl
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 10:28 pm to
This cop's life was NOT in danger. They are supposed to be trained to handle situations like this. If he can't handle someone peeling off during a traffic stop then he has no business being a cop.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 10:29 pm to
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A real fricking good reason to not have half his body in someone elses car. Especially for no good reason. Especially with your firearm aimed at a citizens head.
Agreed. Why put himself in a compromising position? Worse yet, shooting the guy pretty much caused the "worst case" scenario: an uncontrollable car
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Seems like the wrong guy died here.
I don't think either deserved to die.
This post was edited on 7/29/15 at 10:33 pm
Posted by Saltwatersoul04
The Island
Member since Apr 2013
1393 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 10:29 pm to
Maybe where you're from but I've never heard my DA make statements like those. Probably because he would be facing a lawsuit from family members of the alleged criminal.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 10:30 pm to
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I don't think either deserved to die.


Deserved.. strong word. One less bad cop is a lot more valuable than one less petty criminal.
This post was edited on 7/29/15 at 10:31 pm
Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
Nocatee, FL.
Member since Jan 2008
54478 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 10:31 pm to
Maybe after he handed him the alcohol and provided no license he just became a little suspicious. Maybe he was wondering there might be a gun because cops never get shot?
Posted by Saltwatersoul04
The Island
Member since Apr 2013
1393 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 10:32 pm to
Because he was not complying during a traffic stop dumbass.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 10:32 pm to
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Maybe after he handed him the alcohol and provided no license he just became a little suspicious. Maybe he was wondering there might be a gun because cops never get shot?


Isn't that a better reason to, idk, stay out of his fricking car? How about you radio for backup if you feel threatened? I've had a cop approach my vehicle (tags were ONE MONTH out of date) with his gun drawn and it was needlessly tense.
Posted by Saltwatersoul04
The Island
Member since Apr 2013
1393 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 10:33 pm to
Petty?!?! He had 65 prior offenses....
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 10:33 pm to
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Because he was not complying during a traffic stop dumbass.


this has what to do with the officer drawing a firearm and placing it inside the vehicle?
Posted by Saltwatersoul04
The Island
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 10:33 pm to
Ding, ding, ding. Now I get the comments.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 10:34 pm to
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Petty?!?! He had 65 prior offenses....


and let the legal system handle the 66th instead of shooting him dead for putting his car into gear
Posted by Saltwatersoul04
The Island
Member since Apr 2013
1393 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 10:34 pm to
No, no. You asked why he would be reaching inside the vehicle. I answered.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 10:35 pm to
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Ding, ding, ding. Now I get the comments.




yeah, i celebrate when corrupt and racist cops get killed just like i do when shitty thugs get killed.

we live in a sad world when we have people supporting executions for traffic violations.
This post was edited on 7/29/15 at 10:36 pm
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 10:35 pm to
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Maybe where you're from but I've never heard my DA make statements like those.
Then I doubt you're listening closely.
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Probably because he would be facing a lawsuit from family members of the alleged criminal.
For calling the actions of an individual that is being prosecuted for MURDER asinine? Really?
Posted by Saltwatersoul04
The Island
Member since Apr 2013
1393 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 10:35 pm to
Never said he deserved to die just argued the use of petty I'm the case of a criminal with 65 prior offenses.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 10:36 pm to
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Never said he deserved to die just argued the use of petty I'm the case of a criminal with 65 prior offenses.


if they weren't petty crimes, he'd be in jail
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
66892 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 10:36 pm to
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Maybe where you're from but I've never heard my DA make statements like those. Probably because he would be facing a lawsuit from family members of the alleged criminal.


What country are you from?
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 10:37 pm to
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Never said he deserved to die just argued the use of petty I'm the case of a criminal with 65 prior offenses
Well the prior offenses are irrelevant since the officer did not have any knowledge of them and they don't seem to be of any violent nature (unless I'm mistaken).
This post was edited on 7/29/15 at 10:38 pm
Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
Nocatee, FL.
Member since Jan 2008
54478 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 10:37 pm to
Wonder how many of these petty guys you speak of so loosely have shot cops? You guys don't get it do you a cops job and life can be over in an instance. You don't just hey man this guy looks like good dude you just never know. No condoning the shooting but no licenses, alcohol in vehicle I go on high alert.

Eta: an starts the car
This post was edited on 7/29/15 at 10:38 pm
Posted by Indfanfromcol
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
14723 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 10:38 pm to
If I am not mistaken, I believe all officers are trained to treat every situation when approaching a vehicle as if the person has a weapon. But he didn't, and an officer cannot shoot someone because they think that the person might have a gun. If the officer saw a gun, even if the guy didn't go for it, the situation does change IMO. But at no point did the officer see any weapon nor should have thought the person had one.
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