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re: TPSO seizes $800K in cash
Posted on 5/28/15 at 9:29 am to Salmon
Posted on 5/28/15 at 9:29 am to Salmon
if the money was, say, marked bills, then it should be seized as evidence (in reality this works b/c the money would be the state's anyway)
but the government takes this and expands it to such a degree that they steal money they have no way to prove is criminal in nature
the worst are the federal cases where people have their bank accounts seized. there was a terrible USSC case from a couple years ago where they said that fedgov can completely freeze the money, denying the defendants the ability to get some out to pay for their own lawyer
so if you support this bullshite system of seizing money that can't be proven to be directly involved with criminal activity, you support that court case...and you're evil
but the government takes this and expands it to such a degree that they steal money they have no way to prove is criminal in nature
the worst are the federal cases where people have their bank accounts seized. there was a terrible USSC case from a couple years ago where they said that fedgov can completely freeze the money, denying the defendants the ability to get some out to pay for their own lawyer
so if you support this bullshite system of seizing money that can't be proven to be directly involved with criminal activity, you support that court case...and you're evil
Posted on 5/28/15 at 9:29 am to Salmon
It'll come out soon. It's not sealed, just not yet posted.
Posted on 5/28/15 at 9:43 am to Salmon
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The couple was charged with conspiracy to distribute cocaine.
where are you getting this?
He's making it up, or assuming this is what the charge may be but there is no evidence or proof of this.
Posted on 5/28/15 at 9:45 am to BayouBengal6884
Yep. I'm making it up. Totally.
Posted on 5/28/15 at 9:57 am to VetteGuy
Rapides Parish SO
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Which agency, if you don't mind saying?
LSP or local yokel?
Posted on 5/28/15 at 10:02 am to Barf
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Rapides Parish SO
Shocker.
Posted on 5/28/15 at 7:22 pm to GaryMyMan
Another retarded post. If there is no transmission from the cop's antenna, how can a radar detector detect? It detects by acknowledging radio signals produced when the cop's radar is activated. When it is not activated, there is nothing for the "passport 8500" to detect. It's just a chunk of metal and wires until it's activated and a signal is produced.
Posted on 5/28/15 at 7:40 pm to LNCHBOX
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$800k of unexplained cash
Why is this a crime to you to be carrying that much money?
Posted on 11/20/15 at 3:18 pm to Sentrius
Bump
Whatever happened here?
Whatever happened here?
Posted on 11/20/15 at 3:33 pm to chalupa
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Although it was likely drug money, that's screwed up.
He said no to a search, so they got the K9. The K9 hit on illegal narcotics, so they searched. No narcotics. The trainers can obviously make their K9 "hit" on anything
exactly. this is all they have to do to get consent or right full authority to search.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 3:46 pm to tuptiger
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Whatever happened here?
Not sure, but I did see where the sherrifs office got several new Tahoes.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 3:51 pm to Sentrius
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Why is this a crime to you to be carrying that much money?
When I worked in banking, if over 10k in cash crossed the counter to a customer in a day (whether at once or cumulative), you had to fill out a Currency Transaction Report. This report is given to the IRS. The customer retains a copy in case they are pulled over or questioned about the money. It's basically proof that the money came from a legitimate source.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 3:52 pm to SabiDojo
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Drug dogs lol
Almost like they are trained to find drugs on command.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 3:53 pm to NYNolaguy1
K-9's are a joke. They have amazing noses but they will "hit" on anything the officer wants them to.
We've caught officers doing it because we look at the tapes and we see what commands they give. It's usually a tap or something very subtle.
We've caught officers doing it because we look at the tapes and we see what commands they give. It's usually a tap or something very subtle.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 3:59 pm to SabiDojo
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K-9's are a joke. They have amazing noses but they will "hit" on anything the officer wants them to.
There was a court case I read about where this one dog would alert on 90% of cars sniffed. They found drugs 55% of the time, and the courts ruled the searches legal because of probable cause, as in the majority of time they find something . The dog is probable cause on four legs.
Eta LINK
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In U.S. v. Bentley, we see just how damaging the Harris decision really was. Lex, the drug dog that searched Bentley’s car, had a 93 percent alert rate. That is, when Lex was called to search a car, he alerted 93 percent of the time. He was basically a probable cause generator. His success rate was much lower, at 59 percent. That is, the police actually found drugs just six of the 10 times Lex told them they would. That means that four of every 10 people Lex alerted to were subjected to a thorough roadside search that produced nothing illegal
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It gets worse. Even a dog that was well trained initially can be conditioned to pick up bad habits once it’s in the field. This is exactly what was happening with Lex. It turns out that Lex’s handler gives the dog a reward every time he alerts, regardless of whether that alert is accurate. Lex isn’t getting rewarded for filtering innocent motorists from guilty ones. He’s being trained to authorize a search, each and every time he’s called to duty.
The Seventh Circuit found all of this troubling, even conceding that the reward policy was “a terrible way to promote accurate detection.” And yet according to the three-judge panel that heard the case, none of this was enough to amount to a violation of the Fourth Amendment.
This post was edited on 11/20/15 at 4:05 pm
Posted on 11/20/15 at 4:00 pm to SlowFlowPro
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the worst are the federal cases where people have their bank accounts seized. there was a terrible USSC case from a couple years ago where they said that fedgov can completely freeze the money, denying the defendants the ability to get some out to pay for their own lawyer
Actually, that's a current supreme court case which had oral argument less than a month ago.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 4:03 pm to FalseProphet
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Actually, that's a current supreme court case which had oral argument less than a month ago.
And now the ethics committees in different states are on board.
A company was accused of money laundering and they paid the lawyers 500k. The federal government said that they couldn't use the money and ethics charges were filed. The ethics committee said that the lawyers should have conducted a thorough investigation in order to assure the money didn't come from illegal activity.
We are getting to the point where criminals will soon not be able to afford representation at all.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 4:04 pm to NYNolaguy1
While I am 10000% against civil asset forfeiture, if you all think this was a random "12 mph over" stop of a speeder you are wildly naive.
I'd bet the missing $400k (that was funny) there was an undercover operation behind this and TPSO just happened to be the lucky agency to be placed on I12 in time to get this particular truck.
I'd bet the missing $400k (that was funny) there was an undercover operation behind this and TPSO just happened to be the lucky agency to be placed on I12 in time to get this particular truck.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 4:04 pm to NYNolaguy1
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There was a court case I read about where this one dog would alert on 90% of cars sniffed. They found drugs 55% of the time, and the courts ruled the searches legal because of probable cause, as in the majority of time they find something . The dog is probable cause on four legs.
Then the issue is with the court system. I firmly believe dogs are scary accurate and a great indicator of hitting on what they're trained to hit on, at least the ones I've encountered that have received the extra training that others might not get. The problem is when a less than honest officer "interprets" a signal from the dog to be a hit.
I'm on the federal side up in the Northwest and I've noticed that many states are moving away from a K9 establishing PC. Montana and Washington state now both need more than a K9 hit for a search. Now they have two options:
1) Find a fed K9 handler to conduct a sniff for them, as for us a K9 hit still grants PC on the federal side.
2) Use the positive K9 hit as a reason to temporarily detain and seek a warrant. Most judges will write a search warrant for a positive K9 hit but at least that puts another layer between the local cop and getting to search anything just because he says so.
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