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re: TPSO seizes $800K in cash
Posted on 5/28/15 at 8:51 am to Salmon
Posted on 5/28/15 at 8:51 am to Salmon
The real crime here is that for 800k they are going to make up a charge that allows them to keep it, hell without looking it up I'm willing to bet there is some law on the books somewhere already thar this guy broke and even if he has a legit claim to the cash he's gonna lose it. Just think of all the cool paramilitary shite the cops can buy with that kind of money.
Posted on 5/28/15 at 8:51 am to Salmon
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why would the police not provide any substantial evidence to the press?
I get not giving out specific details, but not giving out any type of details on the evidence seems kinda stupid, no?
Could be that an informant is being protected. Could be that the drug kingpin is being targeted. Could be that the Feds said nice work, this is what you say while we round up more criminals. Could be that the IRS said hush during their investigation.
I highly doubt this was a random stop and the cops got lucky finding $800k.
Posted on 5/28/15 at 8:52 am to Five0
i hope people understand that even outside of the WOD, the federal government is in a war against carrying cash
they've even listed it as a sign of terrorism
they've even listed it as a sign of terrorism
Posted on 5/28/15 at 8:54 am to Glock17
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They don't care... they just want to continue with the cop bashing.
it's bashing the system
if a government agency can continue to fail at almost every step along the way and still steal almost a million dollars from a citizen without any proof of criminal activity, then the system is broken. that is the point.
now, if cops perpetuate this immoral system, then they deserve a share of the blame
Posted on 5/28/15 at 8:55 am to roadGator
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This is probably a bad example for cop haters to latch onto IMO
Am always opposed to cops stealing even if they are stealing from the bad guys
Posted on 5/28/15 at 8:55 am to BayouBengal6884
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No, I never claimed to. Do you?
Of course not. I don't think this was a random search though. I think there was an informant that tipped them off.
If this was an illegal seizure, they should get the money back and deal with the IRS like everyone else in the country that pays taxes.
Posted on 5/28/15 at 8:57 am to SlowFlowPro
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without any proof of criminal activity
Shouldn't we wait for more details?
This one will be interesting to follow for sure.
Posted on 5/28/15 at 8:58 am to Five0
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Still waiting to hear if the couple claimed the cash.
Still waiting for cops to prove it is theirs. If they take what is not theirs....
This post was edited on 5/28/15 at 9:01 am
Posted on 5/28/15 at 9:11 am to roadGator
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Shouldn't we wait for more details?
you think speeding is worth the theft of almost a million dollars in property? what crime did that policeman have that person for?
it certainly sounds like this couple was targeted, but that doesn't excuse the theft (in light of no criminal activity going on at the time). if the government wants to steal their money, then it should, at the least, catch them committing a crime to justify it. the government didn't do that in this instance
Posted on 5/28/15 at 9:11 am to Five0
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Still waiting to hear if the couple claimed the cash.
"You go free, we keep the money."
"yeah, OK..."
And another victory for the war on drugs...
Posted on 5/28/15 at 9:13 am to SlowFlowPro
I think it wasn't about speeding.
Posted on 5/28/15 at 9:15 am to roadGator
but they weren't even arrested
if this was part of a bigger investigation, they should have no right to straight up steal property of a citizen without even an arrest
if this was part of a bigger investigation, they should have no right to straight up steal property of a citizen without even an arrest
Posted on 5/28/15 at 9:16 am to VetteGuy
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I was gonna go to Lake Travis to buy a boat.
Guy wanted cash, about $58K.
No way I'd drive from LA to TX with that much cash.
I have a gun(s) so I wasn't worried about common thieves.
I knew if the cops stopped me there was a good chance it would be gone, especially in Louisiana.
My dad and I got pulled over on the way to buy a car in Alexandria. Empty 24 foot enclosed trailer and a bunch of cash made the cops dick as hard as a telephone pole. There were a few tense moments.
Funny thing about that traffic stop is it made me never want to cooperate with traffic cops ever again. Never again will I ever entertain their questions. It's just not worth the risk.
Before any cops jump in and say I shouldn't let one bad apple ruin my opinion on police, save it for someone else. If you feel like one bad experience isn't enough to never trust a cop again, then why don't you leave you gun in your car next time you pull someone over. It only takes one bad experience, right?
Posted on 5/28/15 at 9:16 am to roadGator
A little nomenclature to help clear things up: seizure =\= forfeiture
The cops seized the cash relative to a criminal charge. The cash, the truck, their phones, the contents of their wallets, etc, will be held as evidence while the case is pending. The arrestees can ask a judge to release the property if they can rightly show that it is not evidence, and not ill-gotten gains from illegal activity, or was utilized in some way in the illegal activity.
If the defendants are acquitted, the property will be returned, notwithstanding civil asset forfeiture laws, which are a separate discussion.
The cops seized the cash relative to a criminal charge. The cash, the truck, their phones, the contents of their wallets, etc, will be held as evidence while the case is pending. The arrestees can ask a judge to release the property if they can rightly show that it is not evidence, and not ill-gotten gains from illegal activity, or was utilized in some way in the illegal activity.
If the defendants are acquitted, the property will be returned, notwithstanding civil asset forfeiture laws, which are a separate discussion.
Posted on 5/28/15 at 9:19 am to Jimbeaux
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The arrestees can ask a judge to release the property if they can rightly show that it is not evidence, and not ill-gotten gains from illegal activity, or was utilized in some way in the illegal activity.
Do you still beat your wife?
Posted on 5/28/15 at 9:20 am to Jimbeaux
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The cops seized the cash relative to a criminal charge.
which was?
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The arrestees can ask a judge to release the property if they can rightly show that it is not evidence
isn't this arse backwards?
shouldn't it be the police can seize property once they prove that it is evidence?
This post was edited on 5/28/15 at 9:21 am
Posted on 5/28/15 at 9:24 am to Barf
Which agency, if you don't mind saying?
LSP or local yokel?
LSP or local yokel?
Posted on 5/28/15 at 9:27 am to Salmon
Maybe so. I too have a problem with civil asset forfeiture. But if probable cause exists for an arrest, then the evidence and products/tools of the offense, including cash, can be held while the case is pending. There's good reason for that law. Otherwise, assets will be hidden/liquidated/transferred.
The couple was charged with conspiracy to distribute cocaine.
The couple was charged with conspiracy to distribute cocaine.
Posted on 5/28/15 at 9:28 am to Jimbeaux
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The couple was charged with conspiracy to distribute cocaine.
where are you getting this?
Posted on 5/28/15 at 9:28 am to Jim Rockford
When the cops take $10k or $20 with no cause, it is terrible because that person could be coming back from the casino or on their way to do a cash deal on a car or something.
$800,000,000 though? Gotta be dirty. Should still have to be proven, though.
$800,000,000 though? Gotta be dirty. Should still have to be proven, though.
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