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re: TOPs will require ACT of 28
Posted on 2/14/16 at 3:17 pm to tigerskin
Posted on 2/14/16 at 3:17 pm to tigerskin
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@rebekahallen: Roughly 9000 students would be eligible for TOPS if standards changed to min of 28, plus low income req. That's 37,500 less than today.
The news gets better and better. Support.
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Posted on 2/14/16 at 3:17 pm to member12
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This is culta.
fify
Posted on 2/14/16 at 3:19 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
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The news gets better and better. Support.
"plus low income requirement" is bullshite
Posted on 2/14/16 at 3:20 pm to tigerskin
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also be incorporated. It probably will be.
You're all missing the point and are spreading bad info.
The increased ACT requirements are a function of emergency measures taken in the event that LOSFA doesn't have enough funds to pay for all the people that qualified for TOPS.
Actually changing the requirements to TOPS is a lot harder to do and would never happen because "that's racist."
What you have to do is intentionally underfund TOPS and force them into emergency mode which is crude and doesn't look at GPA but at least it'll raise standards.
Posted on 2/14/16 at 3:20 pm to tigerskin
There is no way that will stand, it's going to be proven WAY too racist in the first year
Posted on 2/14/16 at 3:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
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"plus low income requirement" is bullshite
Agreed. Is this "a 28 and low income", or "a 28 or low income". The first would be better than the latter IMO, but they are both bullshite.
Posted on 2/14/16 at 3:21 pm to Epic Cajun
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Oh, I think I get it. You're smarter than your test scores, you just can't prove it
I took the ACT twice. Got an 18 and a 22.
I have a PhD now. So, I am smarter than my scores, and not only did I prove it, so did my now peers in Academia.
This post was edited on 2/14/16 at 3:23 pm
Posted on 2/14/16 at 3:22 pm to tigerskin
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@rebekahallen: Roughly 9000 students would be eligible for TOPS if standards changed to min of 28, plus low income req. That's 37,500 less than today.
Well that sounds like we should eliminate the low income req. what's it shake out to then?
Posted on 2/14/16 at 3:22 pm to NorthEndZone
Can someone who is familiar with the law tell me how raising the ACT minimum and GPA for TOPS can be viewed as racist?
Posted on 2/14/16 at 3:22 pm to Pectus
Damn, son. I know people in 7th grade getting those scores. smh
Posted on 2/14/16 at 3:23 pm to Pectus
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I have a PhD now. What do you have?
Sex with your mom.
Posted on 2/14/16 at 3:24 pm to tigerskin
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TOPs will require ACT of 28
:thatsracist:
Posted on 2/14/16 at 3:24 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
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However, to function as a standard and a society we can't create numerous exceptions to fit outliers. All that leads to is inefficiency and more exceptions.
Therefore, while it's tough, you must be excluded.
I fully understand that and practice that on a daily basis in my belief system. I am a conservative, and a scientist.
I am just pushing at another equal qualification of a strong GPA getting a brand of TOPS.
And no matter if you get it, a yearly GPA requirement while in college.
Posted on 2/14/16 at 3:25 pm to Epic Cajun
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GPA is more of a measure of determination, rather than intelligence. Anyone of above average intelligence can have a great GPA if they are willing to put in the time and effort to study.
ETA: both of which are integral in college success, so I'm assuming that GPA would still be a consideration. As stated previously, GPA varies too much across schools, so it doesn't make sense that it would be the most weighted factor.
That is what I am saying. Who would you rather pay college tuition for? A slacker who just did well on one test, or a student who applied themselves across their entire high school career?
Posted on 2/14/16 at 3:26 pm to Pectus
GPA is subjective. A 3.8 at Ben Franklin is not the same as a 3.8 at Glen Oaks.
Posted on 2/14/16 at 3:26 pm to Pectus
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I think they should go out and find what they want to do prior to going into college. Some would do great in trade schools or getting associates to get to where they want...and then move up from there.
Exactly what I told my daughter.
She's actually going to do it too.
Posted on 2/14/16 at 3:27 pm to boosiebadazz
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Damn, son. I know people in 7th grade getting those scores. smh
I'm an outlier!
Posted on 2/14/16 at 3:28 pm to boosiebadazz
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GPA is subjective. A 3.8 at Ben Franklin is not the same as a 3.8 at Glen Oaks.
That. And....having a 3.5 GPA will have a different meaning depending on your school.
Iirc I graduated with like a 3.5. That didn't even put me in the top 25% of my graduating class. Not when most kids took AP courses and the top students graduated with 4.2-4.3.
Posted on 2/14/16 at 3:28 pm to SlowFlowPro
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"plus low income requirement" is bullshite
Ya, I missed that part.
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