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Posted on 2/14/16 at 3:01 pm to tigerskin
I still would have gotten it. My best friend would not, but he still got into the LSU honors college, which had a 27 minimum score and graduated top of his class with one B in all of college. Moral of the story, the minimum should be 27 to match the honors college, but I fully support increasing it.
Posted on 2/14/16 at 3:02 pm to Scruffy
My MCAT turned out much different than my ACT, but that was only after years of learning how to prepare for exams. I was in honors classes with 2 guys in high school who scored 32's on their ACTs but flunked out of LSU after their freshmen years.
Posted on 2/14/16 at 3:03 pm to tigerskin
I would have put it slightly lower (like a 26), but i'd be ok with that.
Posted on 2/14/16 at 3:04 pm to Jizzy08
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I was in honors classes with 2 guys in high school who scored 32's on their ACTs but flunked out of LSU after their freshmen years.
That is why High School GPA is a great metric for seeing how well a student will do in college.
It shows long term commitment to achieving excellence in the classroom. In all manners of ways.
Posted on 2/14/16 at 3:04 pm to Red Stick Tigress
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Some people are smart and just don't test well on standardized tests.
Daniel Tosh said it best concerning this.
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Don't you love it when people in school are like, 'I'm a bad test taker.' You mean you're stupid. Oh, you struggle with that part where we find out what you know? I can totally relate see, because I'm a brilliant painter minus my god awful brushstrokes. Oh, how the masterpiece is crystal up here but once paint hits canvas I develop Parkinson's.
Posted on 2/14/16 at 3:04 pm to tigerskin
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@rebekahallen: Stat Rep. Larry Bagley is in disbelief that the ACT score min for TOPS could be 28. "Surely, you're not correct," he says to LOSFA dir.
Who wouldn't be surprised a lot of state reps couldn't get a 28?
I'll raise my hand first
Posted on 2/14/16 at 3:05 pm to Pectus
The problem is it is so difficult to compare GPA's school to school.
Posted on 2/14/16 at 3:06 pm to tigerskin
I was going to say a minimum of a 3.0 and a 24 ACT for the bottom and a 3.7 and 28 for full waiver.
Posted on 2/14/16 at 3:07 pm to tigerskin
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The problem is it is so difficult to compare GPA's school to school.
Fine, but don't you agree it is unfair to discount GPA entirely and go for a really high ACT score?
This post was edited on 2/14/16 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 2/14/16 at 3:09 pm to Pectus
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No it isn't.
Do you know why? Because I'm smarter than my ACT score says I am.
Oh, I think I get it. You're smarter than your test scores, you just can't prove it
Posted on 2/14/16 at 3:09 pm to BadAgg7
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the 3.0 should also have to be maintained in college to keep the financial aid.
Agree completely. I had to keep a 3.0 to maintain my scholly at TCU... and that was WAAAAY harder to get than TOPS.
Posted on 2/14/16 at 3:10 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
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Who wouldn't be surprised a lot of state reps couldn't get a 28?
I'll raise my hand first
i second
Posted on 2/14/16 at 3:11 pm to Pectus
I say the only truth is with any standard there will be outliers.
However, to function as a standard and a society we can't create numerous exceptions to fit outliers. All that leads to is inefficiency and more exceptions.
Therefore, while it's tough, you must be excluded.
However, to function as a standard and a society we can't create numerous exceptions to fit outliers. All that leads to is inefficiency and more exceptions.
Therefore, while it's tough, you must be excluded.
Posted on 2/14/16 at 3:11 pm to CoachChappy
I used mine from 00-04, so I'm gucci
Posted on 2/14/16 at 3:12 pm to tigerskin
Also recently thought of something else.
I had several friends in high school that graduated with like a 2.7 GPA and a 21 on the ACT, which qualified them for TOPS. Nearly all of them went to Nicholls because with TOPS all they really had to pay for was books and gas to get to and from school. They all went to college for the hell of it because the majority of the cost was paid for by TOPS.
Only one of them lasted past the first semester, and he dropped out after transferring to SouthEastern.
In order to keep TOPS going cases like this need to stop.
I had several friends in high school that graduated with like a 2.7 GPA and a 21 on the ACT, which qualified them for TOPS. Nearly all of them went to Nicholls because with TOPS all they really had to pay for was books and gas to get to and from school. They all went to college for the hell of it because the majority of the cost was paid for by TOPS.
Only one of them lasted past the first semester, and he dropped out after transferring to SouthEastern.
In order to keep TOPS going cases like this need to stop.
This post was edited on 2/14/16 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 2/14/16 at 3:12 pm to Pectus
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The problem is it is so difficult to compare GPA's school to school.
Fine, but don't you agree it is unfair to discount GPA entirely and go for a really high ACT score?
Agree that GPA should also be incorporated. It probably will be.
Posted on 2/14/16 at 3:13 pm to Pectus
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Fine, but don't you agree it is unfair to discount GPA entirely and go for a really high ACT score?
GPA is more of a measure of determination, rather than intelligence. Anyone of above average intelligence can have a great GPA if they are willing to put in the time and effort to study.
ETA: both of which are integral in college success, so I'm assuming that GPA would still be a consideration. As stated previously, GPA varies too much across schools, so it doesn't make sense that it would be the most weighted factor.
This post was edited on 2/14/16 at 3:16 pm
Posted on 2/14/16 at 3:13 pm to tigerskin
Great. This should have been the standard from the start of this program.
Posted on 2/14/16 at 3:16 pm to fr33manator
@rebekahallen: Roughly 9000 students would be eligible for TOPS if standards changed to min of 28, plus low income req. That's 37,500 less than today.
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