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Posted on 12/10/14 at 1:53 pm to LNCHBOX
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All you have to do is make the grades. How is that possibly racist? frick these people
Courses are biased towards white people. English teaches grammar and spelling for white folks, not black people. It's not like grammar is an objective thing.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 1:54 pm to Ace Midnight
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it wasn't supposed to be a diversity/inclusion program (we're awash in those), or a needs-based program (we're awash in those, as well) - but precisely to catch those kids in the doughnut hole (i.e. the middle class) AND prevent the brain drain of the smarter kids leaving the state for better financial aid packages - particularly those who would prefer to stay close to home.
The idea is that you keep the kids in state during their post-secondary education and they work here afterwards
Very good summary.
Actually, the other programs are more racially biased than TOPS, with preferences given to minorities, whereas TOPS doesn't differentiate. Make the grades and the test scores and get the award. Period. Mom and Dad can both be working, or they can both be sitting on the front porch waiting for the check to come, both kids get an equal shot at TOPS. The plethora of other programs...not so much.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 1:55 pm to Golfer
What? All you have to do is make the grades. They don't even know anything about you.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 1:59 pm to Schmelly
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What's the split on who receives athletic scholarships? Think that's disproportionate? That should be fixed
I don't think The Rant or The Recruiting Board will agree with this statement.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 1:59 pm to LNCHBOX
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All you have to do is make the grades. How is that possibly racist?
Posted on 12/10/14 at 2:00 pm to Commandeaux
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I don't think The Rant or The Recruiting Board will agree with this statement
you're right
Posted on 12/10/14 at 2:00 pm to Golfer
Posted on 12/10/14 at 2:02 pm to Golfer
It should probably be address why our black and minority students aren't meeting these quotas and how we can get their performance levels up to receive funding.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 2:02 pm to swampdawg
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The article does not mention racism anywhere but rather just points out statistics and criticisms of a program that is increasingly expensive for our state.
This is what I noticed as well.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 2:04 pm to StrongSafety
If the tops kids are white and wealthier, they are probably getting a better secondary education in the private school system. So that's not shocking, as we know of the disparities that exist in louisianas public schooling system
Posted on 12/10/14 at 2:07 pm to StrongSafety
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If the tops kids are white and wealthier, they are probably getting a better secondary education in the private school system. So that's not shocking, as we know of the disparities that exist in louisianas public schooling system
That's bullshite. A lot white kids get TOPS from public schools giving a perfectly fine education. I'm one of them. Our school was half black half white, and more white kids got TOPS/went to college. Parental involvment/expectations were the culprit there more than anything.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 2:08 pm to StrongSafety
You don't need an expensive private school education to get a 2.0 gpa and a 20 on the ACT. The bar is set really low already.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 2:09 pm to Golfer
and Pell grants and minority scholarships rarely go to white kids.
In fact it's harder for the middle class to support a kid through college than it is for someone on welfare.
In fact it's harder for the middle class to support a kid through college than it is for someone on welfare.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 2:09 pm to Boats n Hose
Did I say that was the only factor? Chill dude.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 2:09 pm to Peazey
quote:People with money tend to be better looking and wealthier. There is a reason behind that.
Do students from wealthier families tend to have higher grades and standardized test scores?
The state will probably lower standards to accommodate black kids, even though they have it easier it the shitty schools
Posted on 12/10/14 at 2:09 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:Amen.
All you have to do is make the grades. How is that possibly racist?
Although, here could be a caveat. Maybe even if minority families receive TOPS awards for their children's college education, they still can't afford to house them from afar and help pay for groceries and basic living expenses.
My TOPS award was strictly tuition for 4 years. That was the only way I could go to LSU.
This post was edited on 12/10/14 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 12/10/14 at 2:10 pm to Golfer
quote:Since TOPS is merit based there can be no discrimination. It sounds more like rich white families put an emphasis on education.
Awards from Louisiana’s free college tuition program known as TOPS have gone disproportionately to white students over the last decade, and on average to students from wealthier families.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 2:10 pm to Epic Cajun
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You don't need an expensive private school education to get a 2.0 gpa and a 20 on the ACT. The bar is set really low already.
I'm not saying you do, but most kids living in a household of $70k-$100k to my knowledge are not in public schools.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 2:11 pm to Peazey
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Do students from wealthier families tend to have higher grades and standardized test scores?
Of course. They tend to be smarter, dummies generally don't get money/hold on to money, and parents are more involved and expect more from the kids.
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