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re: TOPS is Racist - "TOPS free college tuition aid goes mostly to white students"
Posted on 12/10/14 at 12:58 pm to Golfer
Posted on 12/10/14 at 12:58 pm to Golfer
And I'll add - it wasn't supposed to be a diversity/inclusion program (we're awash in those), or a needs-based program (we're awash in those, as well) - but precisely to catch those kids in the doughnut hole (i.e. the middle class) AND prevent the brain drain of the smarter kids leaving the state for better financial aid packages - particularly those who would prefer to stay close to home.
The idea is that you keep the kids in state during their post-secondary education and they work here afterwards.
The idea is that you keep the kids in state during their post-secondary education and they work here afterwards.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 1:00 pm to Ace Midnight
yep, and I'd say it helped. I know quite a few people that could have easily gone out of state. Hell, I had a $40,000 scholarship to go Baylor, but TOPS kept me here.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 1:01 pm to Ace Midnight
quote:So are more black people leaving? What's the race angle here? If you don't have one, GTFO!!!
The idea is that you keep the kids in state during their post-secondary education and they work here afterwards.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 1:03 pm to Golfer
How is it racist? It sounds about right to me.
Considering Louisiana's population is 62% white and 30% black, and black people going to college at a lower rate than white people, this sounds about right.
You have more young black males in jail than in college. So how are the numbers supposed to balance out?
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79 percent of the TOPS recipients were white
Considering Louisiana's population is 62% white and 30% black, and black people going to college at a lower rate than white people, this sounds about right.
You have more young black males in jail than in college. So how are the numbers supposed to balance out?
This post was edited on 12/10/14 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 12/10/14 at 1:04 pm to Golfer
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It provides scholarships to Louisiana high school students who complete a certain curriculum and who meet grade point average and college entrance test score requirements: at least a 2.5 GPA and a 20 on the ACT.
Look how high they set the bar though...
Posted on 12/10/14 at 1:05 pm to Golfer
You really only need a 2.5 GPA and a 20 on the ACT?
Wow.
Wow.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 1:09 pm to GetCocky11
Yes, it's a very low bar that is set. Should be 3.3 and 23 at least.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 1:10 pm to Commandeaux
These race baiters won't admit black people don't go to college at the same rate as white people. So if you won't admit that, then these statistics do look unfair. However there's nothing unfair about TOPS, you get the benchmark, you get the award. And over 50% of high school students get those benchmarks
Posted on 12/10/14 at 1:10 pm to GetCocky11
There are different levels. That's the minimum.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 1:11 pm to GetCocky11
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You really only need a 2.5 GPA and a 20 on the ACT?
Wow.
Ah, so TOPS isn't racist. It's just embarrassing.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 1:11 pm to MightyYat
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Now we're going to try to frick over a good program because minority parents aren't doing their fricking job. Fantastic.
Minority parents are doing their job, at least mine did. We just need to get more minorities in college to balance out the numbers.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 1:11 pm to GetCocky11
Yeah I gave no shits in high school and didn't even think about college until senior year and I made TOPs with flying colors
If you can't make those requirements you probably can't make it through freshman orientation
If you can't make those requirements you probably can't make it through freshman orientation
Posted on 12/10/14 at 1:11 pm to SabiDojo
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the ACT
Racist
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GPA
Racist
Posted on 12/10/14 at 1:12 pm to Golfer
TOPS goes to people who make good grades. -->TOPS goes to more white people than black people.-->White people make more good grades than black people.-->Grades are racist.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 1:12 pm to Commandeaux
How do you explain the difference in enrollment? If you think minority parents are doing their job, give us your theory for who isn't
Posted on 12/10/14 at 1:13 pm to terd ferguson
those damn racist standards.
STFU
Posted on 12/10/14 at 1:15 pm to Commandeaux
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Minority parents are doing their job, at least mine did. We just need to get more minorities in college to balance out the numbers.
It seems that colleges are doing their part, especially graduate institutions. It is a well-known fact that "diverse" applicants are almost given preference at colleges and universities.
We should fight for equality of opportunity, not equality of result.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 1:17 pm to Upperdecker
The minority parents who are sending their kids to college are doing their job. For the most part, they will qualify for TOPS.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 1:17 pm to Golfer
TOPS is not awarded at a discretionary case by case basis. grades are grades. you either make them or you don't. Pat Taylor is rolling in his grave over this.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 1:18 pm to Golfer
Government in Louisiana is inept. Don't they have bigger fish to fry?
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