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Posted on 1/9/17 at 1:02 pm to member12
I have a 2016 Colorado with the v-6 and additional suspension for tow package. I really like the vehicle.
Posted on 1/9/17 at 1:47 pm to saderade
4 door 4x4 f-150 for less than 32k? If so you got a rare deal.
Posted on 1/9/17 at 2:02 pm to Leonard
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I like the idea of a diesel-powered midsize truck, so the edge obviously goes to GM in that regard.
I would like a diesel option in US Toyota truck offerings but not at the price premium of $3,700 that GM is asking over their v6. That's absurd.
Posted on 1/9/17 at 2:05 pm to NoBoBullDog
If it saves you from buying a full size with comparable trim, but gives you the same towing capacity, than it is a steal. A top end Chevy 1500 is probably in the 60s. A top end Colorado diesel is around 40.
Posted on 1/9/17 at 3:33 pm to LNCHBOX
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3 whole weeks without an issue? Is this the measuring stick for GM these days?
Sorry I couldn't post from the future...
Posted on 1/9/17 at 7:12 pm to LNCHBOX
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back the extra in fuel and maintenance that you have to pay. And I'm not so sure you'll get back the full additional up front cost for the 4wd either. And while I'm splitting hairs, if OP is financing he won't get back the additional interest he pays on the extra money to get 4wd. There is no reason to buy 4wd if you don't need it.
You are wrong. Look up any truck sold in the US and compare it. The difference is a couple hundred at most.
MPGs are usually about 1 MPG less between drivetrains.
Interest is irrelevant. The dealer is using present value to analyze the deal, so should you.
Posted on 1/9/17 at 8:04 pm to OceanMan
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You are wrong.
No I'm not.
quote:Of course the 4wd will be worth more. It cost more upfront.
Look up any truck sold in the US and compare it.
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MPGs are usually about 1 MPG less between drivetrains.
That's anywhere from 5-10% more fuel. That's not insignificant.
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Interest is irrelevant.
It most certainly is relevant. It's an actual cost that needs to be considered. You don't want to count it because it goes against your premise.
quote:So don't count additional costs that you pay because the dealer will never give you that money back? Nice.
The dealer is using present value to analyze the deal, so should you.
Posted on 1/9/17 at 8:26 pm to LNCHBOX
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It most certainly is relevant. It's an actual cost that needs to be considered. You don't want to count it because it goes against your premise
ok, cool, you are right. Interest on that amount will be a deal breaker. How much are we talking.
That extra gas will really add up to. How much will that actually be?
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Of course the 4wd will be worth more. It cost more upfront.
You don't even know what you are looking for, nevermind.
I just realized who I was talking to. I forgot that you just like to argue and won't even bother to look up anything that might help you understand an opposing viewpoint. And you say I won't admit something because it won't support my premise.
Eta: and just to save you the trouble of giving me a thoughtless reply. Yes, it will cost you more, you are right.
I am also assuming that a person who buys a truck might actually use 4x4. That has value. If you can show me a scenario where the difference is more than $1k, I'll buy you a papa johns pizza and upvote every post I see you post for a year.
This post was edited on 1/9/17 at 8:33 pm
Posted on 1/9/17 at 8:41 pm to OceanMan
I love the ad hominem just because I proved you wrong. So very typical of this place.
Just to refresh your memory, you said no matter what, get 4x4. That's bad advice.
Just to refresh your memory, you said no matter what, get 4x4. That's bad advice.
Posted on 1/9/17 at 11:20 pm to LNCHBOX
You proved nothing dipshit, otherwise you would be enjoying a delicious pizza and a shiny up vote on your post.
Since I was suggesting a Tacoma, I will use it as an example. Base options, DCDB V6. Source is NADA and Toyota.
2010 4x4 (21,450) - 4x2 (18,625) = 2825
2017 4x4 (33,415) - 4x2 (30,340) = 3075
7 years of ownership, and it will cost you a whopping $250 to have 4x4. $35/year. If you can't find $250 worth of value in 7 years of owning a 4x4, you have no business owning a truck. Also if you are sweating fronting $3k, you have no business buying a brand new vehicle. For 2012, the difference is about $300, since 2010 was a random year and 2012 is a round 5 year ownership.
Of course, if you can't front the 3k, you could finance it, for maybe 3% over 5 years ($90/year), and would then get that 3k back at the end of the loan assuming you trade in. That is why interest is irrelevant, it is the consumers decision whether or not they will pay to not front the money. That's what interest is, it's not just an arbitrary added cost.
You are out of your element lunchbox.
Since I was suggesting a Tacoma, I will use it as an example. Base options, DCDB V6. Source is NADA and Toyota.
2010 4x4 (21,450) - 4x2 (18,625) = 2825
2017 4x4 (33,415) - 4x2 (30,340) = 3075
7 years of ownership, and it will cost you a whopping $250 to have 4x4. $35/year. If you can't find $250 worth of value in 7 years of owning a 4x4, you have no business owning a truck. Also if you are sweating fronting $3k, you have no business buying a brand new vehicle. For 2012, the difference is about $300, since 2010 was a random year and 2012 is a round 5 year ownership.
Of course, if you can't front the 3k, you could finance it, for maybe 3% over 5 years ($90/year), and would then get that 3k back at the end of the loan assuming you trade in. That is why interest is irrelevant, it is the consumers decision whether or not they will pay to not front the money. That's what interest is, it's not just an arbitrary added cost.
You are out of your element lunchbox.
This post was edited on 1/9/17 at 11:41 pm
Posted on 1/9/17 at 11:29 pm to CQQ
I don't understand why anyone would buy a vehicle made by General Motors
Posted on 1/9/17 at 11:33 pm to OceanMan
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You proved nothing dipshit
I did actually. Your statement was factually incorrect, and it is bad advice to always get 4wd.
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7 years of ownership, and it will cost you a whopping $250 to have 4x4. $35/year. If you can't find $250 worth of value in 7 years of owning a 4x4, you have no business owning a truck. Also if you are sweating fronting $3k, you have no business buying a brand new vehicle.
Of course, if you can't front the 3k, you could finance it, for maybe 3% over 5 years ($90/year), and would then get that 3k back at the end of the loan assuming you trade in. That is why interest is irrelevant, it is the consumers decision whether or not they will pay to not front the money. That's what interest is, it's not just an arbitrary added cost.
So all you have is some "u poor" bs with a whole bunch of filler.
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You are out of your element lunchbox.
You gave shitty advice, and now you're clearly fuming.
Posted on 1/9/17 at 11:35 pm to saderade
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Just bought a new F150 for around the same price as listed in this thread
No you didn't
Posted on 1/9/17 at 11:41 pm to thegreatboudini
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To OP, I have the 2016 SR5, 4 door, 4x4, V6. Touch screen, xm/sirius, alloy wheels and towing package (7,500 pound capacity). No leather and not available with this package, but I don't care for leather personally. I get 20-22mpg all around. Purchased August 1 and about to turn 23,000 miles. No issues at all. I bought this thing for a hair under 32k. I couldn't get a GM within 2.5k of that price with same amenities, and I personally don't care for the look of the Colorado or Canyon.
My 16 Colorado has the same amenities (also didn't want leather), a better sound system and I get better gas mileage. I was OTD at about the same price as you. If you don't like the look that's fine, but no need to make stuff up to pump up your own decision to purchase a Taco.
Posted on 1/9/17 at 11:44 pm to LNCHBOX
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So all you have is some "u poor" bs with a whole bunch of filler.
Lol. You are a clown dude. Your kids don't stand a chance.
Posted on 1/9/17 at 11:47 pm to OceanMan
Yea, my kid is fricked because I recognize bullshite when I see it.
You've yet to make any compelling argument to buy 4wd no matter what.
You've yet to make any compelling argument to buy 4wd no matter what.
Posted on 1/9/17 at 11:52 pm to Ponchy Tiger
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Tacoma is better on resale which is crazy because I would never pay what they ask for a used tacoma. Tacoma owners are like Yeti owners its like a fricking cult, I don't get it.
Totally false on the Yeti reference. Never owned either but I've sold bunches of both used and love selling Tacomas because I know I'm never going to get a complaint call.
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