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Thought on back pain treatment.

Posted on 2/14/23 at 7:14 pm
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27014 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 7:14 pm
Thoughts on Regenerative Therapy?

Houston has a million ads for a "QC Kinetics". The ads and the target audience make me think it is nonsense. However, some of their therapies are plasma type injections that I feel do have some merit. Tiger Woods was the first I ever heard using it with his doc in Florida. Of course he was probably using steroids as well. Anyway, my back pain is constant and nagging. Got to the point that I had an MRI. Degenerative changes and stenosis and narrowing etc.

Bottom line I just wondered if any of you had first or second hand experience with it. Is it snake oil or is it a new avenue of treatment?
Posted by h0ll@yaboy
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
132 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 7:39 pm to
Your MRI doesn’t explain your pain. It just gives you an idea of your back looks like. As we age the chance of degenerative changes increases and is totally normal.

Answer this: prior to symptom onset were you meeting the minimum ACSM guidelines for exercise? Are you overweight? Did you regularly participate in resistance training?

There is so much that goes into a back injury, but also 70-90% of cases of non-mechanical back injuries, resolve themselves without the need for excessive movement imaging, injections, and surgeries
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
9817 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 7:46 pm to
May sound strange but my Tempurpedic mattress resolved decades of back pain.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
34010 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 7:48 pm to
Have you tried yoga?
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
50157 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 7:50 pm to
Pilates
Posted by PappaSwolio
tGeneral’s Army
Member since Sep 2022
901 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 7:52 pm to
Anything but Opioids
Posted by MyRockstarComplex
The airport
Member since Nov 2009
3328 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 7:55 pm to
Baclofen.

While the extent of my spasms are way less than they used to be (I went from wanting to die to just being inconvenienced), the frequency has ramped up a lot. According to “the best doc in town” I’m just going to have spasms for my whole life and nothing can be done.

Yoga helps. Physical therapy helps. Muscle relaxers help. All that said, I spend almost an hour a day stretching. I’d kill for some stem cells shot directly into my spine.
Posted by Arkapigdiesel
Arkansas
Member since Jun 2009
13272 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 7:58 pm to
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Have you tried yoga?
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
15561 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 7:59 pm to
You need to hit the gym and strengthen your core
Posted by STLDawg
The Lou
Member since Apr 2015
3742 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 8:01 pm to
Your best bets are exercise more and weigh less. Docs can’t do much about back pain.
Posted by MyRockstarComplex
The airport
Member since Nov 2009
3328 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 8:03 pm to
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You need to hit the gym and strengthen your core


Also this. For all the DDPY I do, it would appear I have zero hip abductor strength. If you go to a physical therapist, they should put you through a round of exercise to establish what muscle group is under-served. That’s a huge part of the offset that causes flair-ups.

Flair. Wooooooooo
Posted by wasteland
City of peace
Member since Apr 2011
5602 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 8:19 pm to
Back pain has ruined my life.
Posted by ldts
Member since Aug 2015
2677 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 8:37 pm to
I've been having back pain nag me for a while. I started paying attention to posture and how I lay when I sleep. It's made a big difference, especially focusing on how I sleep. I've always been a terrible sleeper, turns out it seems like it was largely from sleeping with my body in bad alignment. It's made a difference in how I feel, though I'm not 100% yet. It's helped me get to a place where I can more easily do things like exercise to help things out even more.

eta: I've also focused on greatly decreasing the amount of time I spend sitting each day, that's helped too.
This post was edited on 2/14/23 at 8:40 pm
Posted by HermanBoone
The Chuck
Member since Aug 2013
878 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 8:38 pm to
Go see a PT before you elect to get injected with potential snake oil. Degenerative changes at your age are normal and something a PT has seen a million times.
Posted by Chief One Word
Eastern Washington State
Member since Mar 2018
3696 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 8:41 pm to
About three yrs ago I slipped off a water tank onto rock hard frozen ground and landed with all my weight on one foot.

As soon as I got up my butt went instantly numb. I KNEW I was screwed up. Long story short I ended up with a broken back and fusion (hardware) surgery on my L5 and S1.

My surgeon mentioned most of his surgeries are traumatic events like mine. He said 90% of back cases heal on their own.
Posted by wasteland
City of peace
Member since Apr 2011
5602 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 8:55 pm to
I have 4 fusions and 3 more herniated discs
Posted by Larry Gooseman
Houston
Member since Mar 2014
2656 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 10:26 pm to
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I have 4 fusions and 3 more herniated discs


You sound similar to my dad. He’s been addicted to opioids about 7 years at this point.
Posted by h0ll@yaboy
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
132 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 10:40 pm to
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I have 4 fusions and 3 more herniated discs


You sound like a surgeons’s future tuition payments
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
6529 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 11:04 pm to
Since you're in Katy, I suggest going to Reese Chiropractic. It's more of massage for athletes and injury recovery than it is what most people consider Chiro. There's kind of a blend of about to be divorced women that work out a ton, and a bunch of people with joint and back pain that clearly don't work out at all.

She suggested a Zinus mattress, and a new pillow, and it solved nagging issues. Tell her and whomever is doing the rehab work on you what hurts, where, and they'll go digging for the root cause. And oh, do her people dig.
Posted by SJB901Tiger
901
Member since May 2019
68 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 11:09 pm to
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